[Tango-L] Influence of European rhythms in the Tango

[romerob@telusplanet.net]

Konstantin Zahariev,

The influence of European rhythms in the Tango is via the Habanera (Spain). 
Pompeyo Camps draws a parallel between ragtime and tango in the way the USA 
black musicians utilized polkas and European rhythms in the formation of the 
ragtime to obtain a dual race type of music. In the same way, Argentines of 
black descendent received European influence from the Habanera in the formation 
of the first forms of Tango.

The result between ragtime and tango is the similarity of rhythms; the parallel 
is that early Tangos and Milongas have parts of cakewalks and ragtime music. 
The proof is in some of the music left behind by the pianist Manuel O. 
Campoamor a.k.a. "El Negro".

Another source of European influence in the tango dance is given by Jose 
Gobello, who explains that Tango was a peculiar way to dance Mazurca in the 
areas adjacent to the port in Buenos Aires.


Bruno
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From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of 
Konstantin Zahariev
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [Tango-L] On the influence of european rhythms in Tango

On 7/17/07, romerob at telusplanet.net <romerob at telusplanet.net> wrote:
> >On European rhythms which influenced Tango:
>
> By Pompeyo Camps , "Tango and Ragtime: a parallel in time and distance"
> Cultural Service of the United States of America, Buenos Aires
> 1976
> publication, "The African influence in Tango has been primorial" Newspaper "La
> Opinion", Buenos Aires, March 12, 1977.
>
> ....The band - that historical institution of the United States with its
> marching pieces and polkas of european origin. They furnished black  pianists
> the emulsifying agent of the music of a dual race. It was the 2/4 measure "in
> tempo de marcia", the way music was notated by Joplin ( or Slow march tempo)
> with the classic accompaniment of the double bass in 1/4 notes and music 
chords
> in contratempo of 1/8 notes. This corresponds to the pianist's playing with 
his
> left hand,  while with the right hand plays the cut sincopations and the
> displaced accents, which are  characteristic of the African rhythms.


This seems to be about US bands and seems to desribe ragtime. What are
you trying to say?


> On the working class who created tango:
> If you mean the first forms of Tango you might be referring to soldiers and
> women of black descent who appeared to be a subclass within a working class.


I was talking about working class families living in conventillos, and
gathering each night in the large interior yards to socialize, play
music, dance.


With best regards,

Konstantin
Victoria, Canada
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