[Tango-L] Fwd: Women's technique

[steve pastor]

Well, Chris, I certainly hope that your opinion is in the distinct minority.
  Unfortunely, I'm not sure that is true.
   
  Back in the 40s and 50s Arthur Murray advised his female students
  that they were just as responsible for making any dance they accept 
  a good experience, as were their male partners. So, they needed
  to learn certain things. 
   
  I have been looking at some West Coast Swing information, and one
  of the oldest, prominant teachers organiztions of that dance, which
  I find to be very similar in spirit to Argentine Tango, teaches
  that WCS is a 50/50 partnership.
   
  Women do not get better by osmosis. Someone has to point out to 
  them that they should be doing something differently. Whatever you
  do for them, they will not learn to do, either for themselves, or for their
  partners.
   
   
  
"Chris, UK" <tl2 at chrisjj.com> wrote:
    > The problem with dancing with only good dancers is that 
> ... she never learns what she needs to work on.

What she never learns is stuff needed only for partnering bad dancers. 
That's a problem for the teachers selling it, but for the girl?

Not at all. Because, as you said, she only dances only with good dancers. 
Where, incidentally, she can naturally learn all she needs to become as 
good herself.

  
> women's technique can improve with inexperienced dancers if 
> she consciously works at it. 

Quite why any girl feels she should "consciously work at it", goodness 
only knows. That's the guy's job. The girl's job is to have a good time. 
No guy who respects girls would have it otherwise.

> I would consciously work on my grounding with a really big 
> guy that would tend to pull women off axis a lot.

Amazing. Tell me, Trini: do you also recommend bad sex for practice?

Chris









On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:09:05 -0700 (PDT), "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" 

said:
> Actually, a women's technique can improve with
> inexperienced dancers if she consciously works at it. The
> problem with dancing with only good dancers is that the
> good dancers end up compensating for her and she never
> learns what she needs to work on. BTW, I prefer the word
> "inexperienced" to "bad" because I find the latter to be
> more of an attitude than dance ability.
> 
> For example, I would consciously work on my grounding with
> a really big guy that would tend to pull women off axis a
> lot. (He had problems processing information from an
> accident, so there was some tolerance.) When I danced with
> him, I refused to let him do that to me. I got my grouding
> practice in and he got to work on his listening skills.
> 
> Trini de Pittsburgh
> 
> 
> 
> --- Peter Turowski wrote:
> 
> > >>> Follower's technique requires activation via
> > interaction with the
> > >>> leader, and this determines whether her technique is
> > nice or not.
> > >> 
> > >> Well said. A girl's technique gains more from each
> > minute of dancing
> > >> with a good enough guy [...]
> > > 
> > > So, first find a good enough guy...
> > 
> > I'll try a definition of a good enough guy:
> > A bad dancer tries to impress the follower showing how
> > great HE is
> > A good dancer lets her feel how amazing SHE can dance.
> > 
> > But this reminds me somehow of two eurythmics songs,
> > something with sisters and man needed or so... 
> > 
> > Regards
> > Peter
> > 
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