[Tango-L] The Suggested Lead

[Tango For Her]

Michael wrote:

"If the frame is weak, she can't track the center."


I just wanted to clarify ... if you go to the extreme
of providing no frame for your follower, here is what
happens:

1. She follows the best that she can.

2. You become acutely aware of where she is, how she
is following, her timing, and a lot more.

Your dance become about a myriad of small
communications.  It is a beautiful awareness.

Now, add just enough frame to correct for the places
where the connection broke down and ... well, see for
yourself!  I can tell you that I will never go back to
leading with a strong frame, except for during the
occassional move that warrants it.




--- Michael <tangomaniac at cavtel.net> wrote:

> You are correct that your frame doesn't move the
> woman. She has to move herself. HOWEVER, your
> frame's direction indicates the direction she should
> move and the distance your frame moves indicates how
> much she should move.
> 
> An alternative explanation is if the leader's center
> moves 18 inches to the left, she should move 18
> inches to the right. The leader's frame is supposed
> to keep her in the center. She should follow the
> leader's center. If the frame is weak, she can't
> track the center. She won't move 18 inches because
> she can't feel 18 inches of movement unless the man
> sweeps her like a broom and forces her to move 18
> inches to her right.
> 
> Michael
> I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tango For Her 
>   To: Michael ; tango-l at mit.edu 
>   Cc: Michael 
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:44 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The Suggested Lead
> 
> 
>   On the contrary, I believe that the lead comes
> from our centers.  My frame is to let her know that
> I am there for her / with her.  My frame is not to
> move her.  
> 
>   If she misread my lead, then, it is my belief that
> I lost my concentration.  Next time, I will correct
> for it, show my intention a little stronger, with
> just my body movement and we'll see what happens.  
> 
>   However, I could respond in a different way.  If
> you mean that she should have felt my right arm,
> with a strong frame, then, if her body reacts to it,
> correctly, then, we will both move the correct
> distance.  However, if she felt it and, still didn't
> move the full distance, I would prefer to follow her
> to the completion of her step.
> 
>   Thanks for the response!
> 
>   Michael <tangomaniac at cavtel.net> wrote:
>     TFH:
>     Sounds like to me the leader has a weak frame.
> If the man's frame moves 18 inches to the left, the
> woman should move 18 inches to her right.
> Regardless, you are correct that the man shouldn't
> move beyond the woman.
> 
>     Michael
>     Washington, DC
>     I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: "Tango For Her" 
>     To: 
>     Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:18 PM
>     Subject: [Tango-L] The Suggested Lead
> 
> 
>     I am sure that someone is going to respond with
> a version of this that doesn't use the word
> "suggest", but has the same effect. In that case, we
> are all intending the same thing, but, we use
> different language. Live and let live ...
> 
> 
>     A SUGGESTED LEAD
> 
>     The leader suggests a side step about 18 inches
> in length.
>     The follower misreads the suggestion and steps
> 12 inches in length.
>     The leader follows the follower 12 inches.
>     When the step is completed, the follower is
> balanced.
> 
> 
>     THE NON-SUGGESTED LEAD
> 
>     The leader leads and steps to 18 inches.
>     The follower misreads the lead and steps 12
> inches.
>     When the step is completed, the follower is
> thrown off balance.
>     Whoops!
> 
> 
>     THE EXERCISE FOR NEW LEADERS
> 
>     The leader leads a step to his left.
>     The follower moves her right foot, first.
>     Once the follower's foot has moved outside of
> the leader's left foot, 
>     the outside of the leader's left foot is not to
> go past the inside of the follower's foot 
>     until she sets her foot down.
> 
>     Difficult, at first. But, once he gets it, he
> will step before his follower less often.
> 
>     <-- x follower's right foot.
>     <-- x leader's left foot. 
> 
>     Let me say it, again, this way:
>     While their feet are moving,
>     the outside of the leader's left foot is in line
> with the inside of the follower's right foot.
>     Thus, he cannot move ahead of her.
> 
> 
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> 
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