[Tango-L] Partner choices

[Ben West]

No, this is not the case. The women I'm talking about dance rather elaborate stuff although not to well excecuted.... Sure, part of the time it's a close embrace type of thing, but they also do the step de jour (volcada, colgada, gancho, etc..) and whatever is the latest canyengue step as show in some video.

What I don't understand is why they so rarely dance as women and so often dance as men... It does not even matter if the ratio is skewed towards more men than women, they still take women to dance and rarely dance with men (well, maybe they don't get too many invites...). Anyway, I just don't care for it and neither do other people I talk with. Like I said, I will not ask these women or their partners to dance because I don't think they want to be asked and they prefer to dance amongst themselves. Besides, there are lots of other women who like to dance the womans part with a male partner. I will ask them.

Cheers

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> From: Derik Rawson<rawsonweb at yahoo.com>
> To: "Ben West" <cansado at rock.com>, <tango-l at mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Partner choices
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> Dear Ben: The reason these woman won't dance with you is because they
> all are usually doing the simple "close embrace all the time" tango with
> these poor women victims and it is very easy to lead. Also, these women
> have not really bothered to learn how to to follow a man because they
> have been wasting all their time trying to learn how to lead. These
> women neither lead or follow very well, because they lack overall dance
> experience. Derik d.rawson at rawsonweb.com --- Ben West wrote: > There are
> some women (a few, who seem to always > dance with other women at the
> milongas. They dance > with women almost exclusively... I've danced with
> > them before and IMHO, they are not the paragon of > follower skill and
> grace. These are only a couple of > cases and obviously do not represent
> the skill and > grace of every woman who dances or has danced the >
> man's part but at least in their case this practice > has not helped
> them in that respect. Also, I've > spoken with other women who don't
> like it either and > will not dance with these women. They say things >
> along the lines of not liking to be in another > woman's arms in these
> settings, it creeps them > out..... Frankly, it's none of my business
> who > dances with whom and I would not interfere with > their choices.
> However, as a man I don't like to see > this custom. For some reason the
> women who dance the > woman's part with these women dancing the man's
> part > seem to send the message that they prefer dancing > with the
> women "leaders" so I don't ! > dance with them. It's just that I don't
> get any > vives that would indicate that these women are > interested in
> dancing with men like me. > I'm not talking about the occasional dance
> of 2 > women or even 2 guys. I totally understand and even > approve of
> these things. I just don't like to see > these women dancing the man's
> part all night long in > the milongas. It's just my personal opinion. >
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> The reason these woman won't dance with you is because
> they all are usually doing the simple "close embrace
> all the time" tango with these poor women victims and
> it is very easy to lead.  Also, these women have not
> really bothered to learn how to to follow a man
> because they have been wasting all their time trying
> to learn how to lead.  These women neither lead or
> follow very well, because they lack overall dance
> experience.
> 
> Derik
> d.rawson at rawsonweb.com
> 
> 
> --- Ben West <cansado at rock.com>; wrote:
> 
> > There are some women (a few, who seem to always
> > dance with other women at the milongas. They dance
> > with women almost exclusively... I've danced with
> > them before and IMHO, they are not the paragon of
> > follower skill and grace. These are only a couple of
> > cases and obviously do not represent the skill and
> > grace of every woman who dances or has danced the
> > man's part but at least in their case this practice
> > has not helped them in that respect. Also, I've
> > spoken with other women who don't like it either and
> > will not dance with these women. They say things
> > along the lines of not liking to be in another
> > woman's arms in these settings, it creeps them
> > out..... Frankly, it's none of my business who
> > dances with whom and I would not interfere with
> > their choices. However, as a man I don't like to see
> > this custom. For some reason the women who dance the
> > woman's part with these women dancing the man's part
> > seem to send the message that they prefer dancing
> > with the women "leaders" so I don't !
> >   dance with them. It's just that I don't get any
> > vives that would indicate that these women are
> > interested in dancing with men like me.
> > I'm not talking about the occasional dance of 2
> > women or even 2 guys. I totally understand and even
> > approve of these things. I just don't like to see
> > these women dancing the man's part all night long in
> > the milongas. It's just my personal opinion.
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