[Tango-L] Falling off your axis...

[El Mundo del Tango]

<<To be able to do a volcada (or anything) IS to 'have the concept'. What 
other 'having the concept' could there possibly be?>>

My point exactly, Chris. Thank you

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris, UK" <tl2 at chrisjj.com>
To: <Tango-L at mit.edu>
Cc: <tl2 at chrisjj.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Falling off your axis...


> Gabriel wrote, apparently seriously:
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>> I hope(I really do) that you are not saying you can follow volcadas
>> and colgadas having no concept (The key word here) of what they are,
>> if the lead is good.
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> To be able to do a volcada (or anything) IS to 'have the concept'. What 
> other 'having the concept' could there possibly be?
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>> That would mean any good leader should be able to pick any woman off 
>> the street and make her dance.
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> Well of course.
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> I do hope you're not saying a girl should not be able to dance unless 
> she's taken classes. My favourite volcada girl has taken not one class 
> in her life.
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> Chris
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> -------- Original Message --------
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> *Subject:* Re: [Tango-L] Falling off your axis...
> *From:* "El Mundo del Tango" <mail at elmundodeltango.com>
> *To:* "Deby Novitz" <dnovitz at lavidacondeby.com>, <tango-l at mit.edu>
> *Date:* Mon, 8 May 2006 19:41:27 -0700
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> Deby, of course "names" do not matter for the steps.
> However, I hope(I really do) that you are not saying you can follow 
> volcadas 
> and colgadas having no concept (The key word here) of what they are, if 
> the 
> lead is good.
> That would mean any good leader should be able to pick any woman off the 
> street and make her dance.
> 
> Gabriel
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Deby Novitz" <dnovitz at lavidacondeby.com>
> To: <tango-l at mit.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 2:01 PM
> Subject: [Tango-L] Falling off your axis...
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>> Evan!!!! I have a headache...jeesh, you scientist types...I think if you
>> talk to any of the well known "dancers" they will tell you the same of
>> what I wrote.  How do I describe?  I never look to the man to provide me
>> with my balance or my center.  I have my own.  I don't know the names of
>> all these steps, because essentially they were named for export.  I just
>> dance.  I had that conversation with Roberto the other night.  I told
>> him that people always ask me things about colgadas, volcadas, etc. and
>> I have no idea what they are talking about, I told him I  just follow
>> your lead and whatever it is you want me to do. (and that is about the
>> only time I do whatever he wants me to do, so don't get any ideas..) His
>> response?  "Muy bien que dijo."  (What you said was right.) He said that
>> when he took from Todaro, from Avenellada, Balmaceda, there were no
>> names, you just walked or did a giro.  The movements become sequences.
>> It was only when there was an influx of people from outside, that names
>> were then give to the steps.  Kind of like the 8 count basic which does
>> not really exist here. (Kind of like how Argentines give directions...oh
>> you know, that place on Entre Rios sort of in the middle of the
>> block...near that other place.)
>>
>> Beyond that, I have executed many steps where we are not in front of
>> each other, and to do them properly I need to have complete control of
>> my body - which means my posture, my balance, and my center. (Think Tai
>> Chi) I need to know where my partner's axis is and he needs to know
>> mine, but if done properly , you never have to look, or even think about
>> it, it is just there.  Beyond that my friend, I don't know what to tell
>> you.  I cannot explain just like everyone else...sigh...where is the
>> excedrine?
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