[Tango-L] Leading and following

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Trini: Why do you even bother to dance with these clowns?
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) <patangos at yahoo.com>
To: Tango-L <Tango-L at mit.edu>
Sent: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 21:26:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Leading and following


Hi Igor,

Perhaps I should elaborate.  

With the man with whom I do not allow sacadas, I close my
step more quickly and move more quickly to the next step. 
When he paradas and tries to sandwich, I continue to turn
around him so that he never gets the chance to even start
his sandwich.  I am changing his intended step.  I can
always read his intention very early on.

With the man who leads wildly around the room, I often take
much smaller steps than what he invites.  I keep my eyes
open to navigate and can choose where to go if necessary.

And every once in a while with other guys, I'll ignore an
invitation in order to avoid a collision.

As for the pumping arm, it probably is more of a style than
a lead, as you pointed out.

It helps that I also dance the man's part, so it's not hard
for me to change things as necessary.

Trini de Pittsburgh

--- Igor Polk <ipolk at virtuar.com> wrote:

> Trini,
> 
> In your examples:
> 
> "..There is one man in our community that
> I refuse to allow sacadas or anything involving the space
> between my feet because I do not trust his balance.  With
> another, I refuse to let my right arm be treated as a
> pump.
>  With another, I have refused to be lead wildly around
> the
> room..."
> 
> You did not negotiate the Result of a Particular Lead.
> You negotiated the Style of Dancing. Which is  a
> different thing.
> In general, it means you Did Not Let to Lead the
> particular things. See the
> difference?
> 
> I am referring to not to "he led me all around the room
> in linear
> directions",
> but "he led me to the forward step, then to the cross,
> then to the forward
> ocho" - three leads at least.
> Then, if you wish, "he surprised me: instead of smoothly
> leading to the side
> step of molinete, he over rotated me to another forward
> ocho..". Woops..
> 
> Igor.
> 
> 
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