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[zhannochka .]

Korey and Guldan,
Thank you for speaking out on behalf of dancers  who
love dancing to live music!  Especially, when it comes
to dancing to Tango Lorca.  I enjoy both "flying" to
Tango Lorca while dancing with a partner helping me do
that,  and being "grounded" to Tango Lorca while
dancing with a partner who prefers an old-milonguerro
style. 
 
I'm getting sick and tired of "semi so-called
professionals" that denounce this or that band
labeling their music "undanceable".   No really, let
others decide for themselves! If you don't like
dancing to a live music band, sit out the set.  The
band will take a break, and you will get your recorded
music.  But do us all a favor, keep your mouth shut
while you are not dancing and let those on a dance
floor enjoy it.
 
Better yet, stay away with your negativity from the
festivals.  No one, not the organizers, not musicians
and not even other dancers need to hear you b****ing
about not being able to "dance" to  live music.  Stay
at home with your records.  Let both music and and
dance evolve and grow under patronage of
PROFFESSIONALS!
 
Another set of live music for me, please!
 
Zhanna
 
P.S. perhaps there should be more musicality workshops
taught by professional musicians to help dancers
figure out how to dance to tango music of today.

--- Korey Ireland <korey at kodair.com> wrote:

> Hello Michael, Igor, Neil, Janis, and others
> concerned about live  
> music for tango dancers:
> 
> Thank you for sharing your perspective, its
> important for all of us  
> to recognize there is a variety, different tastes,
> and that diversity  
> potentially makes us more robust as a community. 
> I'm doing the math  
> in my head to work out the "contentment" ratio
> ...but at last nights  
> milonga in Seattle I believe there were about 200
> people "happily"  
> dancing to live music by Conjunto Berretin, I won't
> claim they were  
> perfectly interpreting this energetic and playful
> ensemble, but they  
> weren't doing any worse to my eyes as a dance floor
> then when the DJ  
> played.  In fact, the energy in the room was
> noticeably boosted when  
> the band played.  Then there was the event last week
> in Mt. Vernon  
> where Tango Lorca with special guest Hector Del
> Curto played for a  
> room of enthusiastic dancers (apparently minus
> Michael and a few  
> others).  Again, watching the room with the band
> playing and later  
> with the skilled Djing of Robin Thomas and Robert
> Hauk, I didn't feel  
> a big shift in quality of dance, maybe a small
> change in energy  
> level.  Well, my point is just to give some voice in
> this forum to  
> the hundreds of dancers who do seem to enjoy dancing
> to these  
> groups.  We hear from the few outspoken critics
> frequently, lets put  
> it in context.  I count about 300 for and 5 against.
> 
> Not to dispute your claims, they are of course, your
> experiences, but  
> just to show another view, which in fact I believe
> to be a majority  
> perspective - live music is a delight to dance to! 
> We are extremely  
> fortunate that musicians of the caliber of Tango
> Lorca, Conjunto  
> Berretin, and Trio Garufa (among others) chose to
> devote considerable  
> time to learning dance repertory and style.  (and
> yes, I can assure  
> you, they do make a considerable effort to please
> us!)  Quite the  
> contrary of sucking, or being too much work, I often
> find dancing to  
> live music a highlight of a festival weekend.
> 
> Perhaps there are others reading this who can
> corroborate?
> 
> These musicians are, by and large, warm, generous,
> accommodating,  
> people, who put uncompensated effort to play in a
> difficult and  
> subtle style that we will recognize as good dance
> music.  This is a  
> style that developed from an economy that employed
> musicians 7 days a  
> week, 2 gigs a night, until we have such an economy
> I think its a  
> little unrealistic for us to expect the same musical
> conditions, and  
> if you want to improve the situation, hire more live
> music, give your  
> local band more practice, and perhaps some positive
> feedback.  When  
> you criticize, blame, or vilify these musicians, you
> just make them  
> less likely to take an interest in our art form,
> which ultimately is  
> an impoverishment for all of us.  Please, think
> carefully about the  
> human beings who are effected when you feel it
> necessary to flaunt  
> your superiority and criticize those who endeavor to
> inspire us to  
> dance.  Your words have an impact on the musicians
> who can be  
> extremely discouraged by the intolerance of dancers,
> and for those of  
> us who dream of some day dancing to live music that
> is as good as, or  
> possibly better then the recordings we love to dance
> to.  As I  
> understand it, dancers came back to tango in the
> late 30s and 40s  
> because a new musical style played by innovative
> musicians compelled  
> them to dance.  I'm sure at the time, there were a
> handful of people  
> who said it was bad, the the status quo was better,
> change is scary  
> and wrong, I imagine we're all happy that no one was
> swayed by these  
> complaints.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Korey Ireland
> 
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