Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition ... yes?

Sample, Rick Rick.Sample at graybar.com
Fri Feb 11 13:39:37 EST 2011 

Hi Mike, 

Yes, I believe you did mention it at least once that there is a new addition of the book. But pray tell, what edition is it again? 

I see is "Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition". I would not want Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition if there is a new one. Looks like Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition is what I need to shine some light. If I had Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition, some of these questions would not be necessary I suppose. Sounds like I am plugging the book "Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition". 
 
http://www.sap-press.com/products/Practical-Workflow-for-SAP-%282nd-Edition%29.html

Online downloadable version of "Practical Workflow for SAP 2nd Edition"?


Regards and have a great weekend,
Rick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf Of Sample, Rick
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:00 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: ABAP Objects vs. BOR to
> trigger event? (Thanks Mike(s), Jocelyn,
> ... ANSWERED closed)
> 
> What I have works for now. I ordered the
> book, waiting.
> 
> I created this object based on Jocelyn's
> ZCL_PLANT object from one of her PDFs
> / blogs. (Thanks JD)
> 
> VNSG_WF_Tip_200703_abapoo.pdf or
> SDN. I have several PDFs squirreled away
> and tutorials etc. Just little intimidating
> getting started from scratch with no formal
> stuff except internet.
> 
> Thanks much (to all of you that help me), I
> am off to the races...
> Rick
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
> > [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Pokraka
> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:41
> AM
> > To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > Subject: RE: ABAP Objects vs. BOR to
> > trigger event? (Thanks Mike(s) - 1 last
> question per your response)
> >
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> > Yes, this should work. You will need to
> supply the instance data back
> > to WF in the LPOR method so you need
> to do some work in the
> > CONSTRUCTOR to store your instance
> data.
> >
> > Not sure if I mentioned it already, but
> consider getting a copy of The
> > Book (version 2). It has a whole section
> on OO in WF with lots of code
> > samples. By all means do continue to
> ask questions, but the book will
> > save time as you don't need to wait for
> answers.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Fri, February 11, 2011 4:23 pm,
> > Sample, Rick wrote:
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I have a simple WF with one task. I
> have
> > the ABAP OO class coded.
> > > (based on ZCL_PLANT demo by
> > Jocelyn)
> > >
> > > Test WF (SWUS) with setting the
> ABAP
> > OO key, works fine. I have an
> > > instance and can call any method with
> > Task.
> > >
> > > Test WF (SWUS) without setting the
> > ABAP OO key, lpor-instid is not set
> > > (obviously) and
> > > fails in FIND_BY_LPOR, so I have no
> > instance at this point. This is
> > > where I created a BG task to
> create/set
> > the WF instance.
> > > BG task with Static method called
> > CREATEINSTANCE:
> > >   TRY.
> > >       CREATE OBJECT ex_instance
> > >         EXPORTING
> > >           im_salesdocument =
> > im_salesdocument.
> > >     CATCH cx_bo_error.
> > >       EXIT.
> > >   ENDTRY.
> > >
> > > This what you were suggesting?
> Sorry, a
> > little dense. The OO learning
> > > curve thing...
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time.
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
> > >> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]
> On Behalf Of Mike Pokraka
> > >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:41
> > AM
> > >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > >> Subject: RE: ABAP Objects vs. BOR
> to trigger event?
> > >>
> > >> Yes. Good OO practice is to make
> the instantiation private so this
> > >> and FIND_BY_LPOR are the only
> ways to instantiate the class.
> > >>
> > >> What I have done is also a
> > >> GET_BOR_INSTANCE instance
> > method,
> > >> just so I can populate the WF
> container
> > with the BOR instance for GOS
> > >> purposes.
> > >>
> > >> In general, my approach for working
> > with existing functionality is to
> > >> leave existing stuff as is, but
> whenever
> > I need to make a
> > >> modification to a BOR component I
> > port it over to the corresponding
> > >> class. I try to be as proactive as time
> > permits, so it's more of a
> > >> jugement call than anything else.
> > >>
> > >> The GOS part is mainly a problem
> > >> because the BOR object types are
> > often hardcoded. I did have some
> > >> ideas about enhancing GOS to
> > automatically map BOR types to
> > >> corresponding classes so it would
> pick
> > up pure OO WFs, but never had
> > >> the time/opportunity/need to
> implement
> > it. Unless you have serious
> > >> volumes it's a disproportionately
> large
> > effort for circumventing
> > >> something as simple as having an
> > additional container element sitting
> > >> there doing very little.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, February 9, 2011 8:23 pm,
> > >> Sample, Rick wrote:
> > >> > Hi Mike,
> > >> >
> > >> > When you were referring to
> > >> GET_INSTANCE, you are saying it is
> > just a
> > >> > method of the class with something
> > like
> > >> this? This is what I have for
> > >> > CreateInstance. Standard naming
> to
> > call
> > >> it GET_INSTANCE like my usage?
> > >> >
> > >> >   TRY.
> > >> >       CREATE OBJECT ex_instance
> > >> >         EXPORTING
> > >> >           im_salesdocument =
> > >> im_salesdocument.
> > >> >     CATCH cx_bo_error.
> > >> >       EXIT.
> > >> >   ENDTRY.
> > >> >
> > >> > scratching the surface, but making
> > some
> > >> headway!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
> > >> >> [mailto:sap-wug-
> bounces at mit.edu]
> > On Behalf Of Mike Pokraka
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09,
> > 2011
> > >> >> 11:27 AM
> > >> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > >> >> Subject: RE: ABAP Objects vs.
> > BOR to trigger event?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hi Rick,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yes it is unfortunately necessary
> to
> > >> have both in most cases.
> > >> >> Sometimes I just have the BOR
> in
> > the
> > >> WF container purely so the
> > >> >> workflow is visible from GOS.
> There
> > >> are ways around that too but some
> > >> >> things aren't always worth the
> > effort.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> A couple of ways around the
> > >> instantiation:
> > >> >> 1.  An event replicator. The BOR
> > event
> > >> receiver in SWETYPV is a
> > >> >> method that looks at the BOR
> event
> > >> and raises the clas event which
> > >> >> starts the workflow. Not suitable
> for
> > >> high-volume processes.
> > >> >> 2. First prize is always to raise a
> > class
> > >> event in first place. If
> > >> >> using change docs or the likes
> > you're
> > >> all set.
> > >> >> 3. Create class instance in WF.
> > This is
> > >> what you have done, but far
> > >> >> less performance overhead is via
> a
> > >> static GET_INSTANCE functional
> > >> >> method on the
> > >> >> class: this can then be called in a
> > conatiner operation step or
> > >> >> even in a
> > >> binding of the first step that
> > >> >> needs it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> This is all explained in the second
> > >> edition of the WF book. Author's
> > >> >> prceeds go to charity so this is
> not
> > >> advertising :-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheers,
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, February 9, 2011 4:39
> > pm,
> > >> >> Sample, Rick wrote:
> > >> >> > Note: I added a hack. I catch
> the
> > >> BOR
> > >> >> Created event, then in
> > >> >> > background task, call a
> > >> >> CREATE_INSTANCE method to
> > >> populate
> > >> >> the ABAP
> > >> >> > objects instance, but this
> seems
> > a
> > >> little
> > >> >> bit of a kludge way to do it.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> From: sap-wug-
> > bounces at mit.edu
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> [mailto:sap-wug-
> > bounces at mit.edu]
> > >> On
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Behalf Of Sample, Rick
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February
> 09,
> > >> 2011
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> 10:14 AM
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> To: SAP Workflow Users'
> Group
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Subject: ABAP Objects vs
> BOR
> > to
> > >> >> trigger
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> event?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Hi all,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> I am playing around with a WF
> > >> using
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> ABAP Objects. I built the
> object,
> > wf,
> > >> >> some
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> tasks, and all seems to be
> going
> > >> fine.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> The WF will be based on
> Sales
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> (BUS2032). I will obviously
> need
> > to
> > >> run
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> both BOR and ABAP objects
> to
> > >> trigger
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> CREATE, CHANGED, etc.
> > events.
> > >> >> When
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> BUS2032.CREATE triggers,
> how
> > to
> > >> I
> > >> >> also
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> trigger ABAP Objects?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> What is the "Best practices" to
> > run
> > >> side
> > >> >> by
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> side? I have several PDFs,
> but
> > do
> > >> not
> > >> >> see
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> this addressed.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Rick
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
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