Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently

Thu Jun 24 03:05:51 EDT 2010

Hi back Jocelyn,

You!re right to point out how essential SWEQADM is of course.

In this case the cause for concern seems to be the behaviour of the  
event linkages, which is more evident using SWETYPV.

Any self-respecting WF Admin should be watching both or at least be  
aware of them.

Like you, though, my instinct here would be to investigate why errors  
are causing feedback to trip the linkage rather than rush off to  
adjust the setting, which is not what I'd advocate at all. Quite the  
contrary. In this case the setting behaviour could well be justified  
to prevent further damage.

And of course SWEQADM would be invaluable to help diagnose and re- 
issue 'stuck' events.

MGT

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:38, "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com> wrote:

> Hi MGT,
>
> Sorry but for the benefit of all I have to disagree with you there…
>
>
>
> As the whole point of SWEQADM is
>
> a)      to manage the event behaviour over and above the settings  
> transported via SWETYPV
>
> b)      to help you diagnose what is wrong if an event linkage has  
> failed  - especially an occasional problem such as this which might  
> be data related
>
>
>
> I’m still seeing too many sites not remembering to set up SWEQADM an 
> d suffering as a result.
>
>
>
> Please folks you really need to think of activating your workflow  
> environment as at least a 2 step process these days i.e. SWU3  
> ***AND*** SWEQADM.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jocelyn
>
>
>
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On  
> Behalf Of Madgambler
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2010 8:05 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Cc: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: Re: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently
>
>
>
> And SWETYPV is probably more useful for that...
>
>
>
> But, rather than changing the settings to prevent the linkage from  
> blowing it would be a better idea to find a recent instance of your  
> WF (no doubt you have an errored one lying around) and work out the  
> problem is.
>
>
>
> You might, for example, have an intermittent issue that is data  
> related, e.g. A binding error like ObjectA.ObjectB.Attribute where  
> ObjectB is null.
>
>
>
> MGT
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 23 Jun 2010, at 09:08, "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Just check the settings on the basic data tab.  Karl has already  
> indicated that the critical field is the Behavior on Error Feedback
>
>
>
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On  
> Behalf Of Patil, Priyank
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2010 5:54 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently
>
>
>
> Could you please explain me in detail regarding the settings in the  
> Queue Administration (SWEQADM) for workflows. As Iam not much aware  
> in that. Please let me know the settings that should be done.
>
>
>
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On  
> Behalf Of Dart, Jocelyn
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:14 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently
>
>
>
> Yes – that’s exactly the sort of behaviour that suggests you are  
> getting failed linkages that are being deactivated by the Event Queu 
> e Administration settings.
>
>
>
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On  
> Behalf Of Patil, Priyank
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2010 5:18 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently
>
>
>
> Once I login into Prod and activate, it starts to work perfectly.  
> But after some days it will get inactive automatically, even for  
> standard workflows. Again I need to login and activate it. Its like  
> an extra rework for us.
>
>
>
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On  
> Behalf Of Karl Nietz
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:57 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently
>
>
>
>
> It is likely that you have the type linkage setting for your  
> triggering event set to 'Deactivation of Linkage' when an error  
> occurs (parameter 'Behaviour Upon Error Feedback').  You should  
> change this to something more benign.  Also check the report of  
> workflows in error (SWI2_DIAG) to see if you have workflows in  
> error, and review and clear them.
>
> Karl Nietz
> Senior Consultant
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> "Patil, Priyank" <Priyank.Patil at keane.com>
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> Date:
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> 23/06/2010 04:08 PM
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> Subject:
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> Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently
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>
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>
>
>
> Hi,
>      We are facing serious a problem in production. The workflows  
> which are existing in Prod are automatically getting inactive. The  
> event link in SWDD are getting inactive frequently and the mail/ 
> workitems are not getting triggered. Since every time we need to  
> login to Prod and activate the event linkage in the workflow  
> builder. Is there any permanent solution for this??.We are into Ecc6.
> ______________________
> Thanks and Regards,
> Priyank Dev Patil.
>
>
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