<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi back Jocelyn,</div><div><br></div><div>You!re right to point out how essential SWEQADM is of course. </div><div><br></div><div>In this case the cause for concern seems to be the behaviour of the event linkages, which is more evident using SWETYPV.</div><div><br></div><div>Any self-respecting WF Admin should be watching both or at least be aware of them.</div><div><br></div><div>Like you, though, my instinct here would be to investigate why errors are causing feedback to trip the linkage rather than rush off to adjust the setting, which is not what I'd advocate at all. Quite the contrary. In this case the setting behaviour could well be justified to prevent further damage.</div><div><br></div><div>And of course SWEQADM would be invaluable to help diagnose and re-issue 'stuck' events.</div><div><br></div><div>MGT<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:38, "Dart, Jocelyn" <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Hi MGT,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Sorry but for the benefit of all I have to disagree with you
there… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">As the whole point of SWEQADM is <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">to manage the event behaviour <u>over and above</u> the settings
transported via SWETYPV<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">to help you diagnose what is wrong if an event linkage has
failed - especially an occasional problem such as this which might be data
related<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I’m still seeing too many sites not remembering to set up
SWEQADM and suffering as a result. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Please folks you really need to think of activating your
workflow environment as at least a 2 step process these days i.e. SWU3
***AND*** SWEQADM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Jocelyn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Madgambler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 23 June 2010 8:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Cc:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And SWETYPV is probably more useful for that...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But, rather than changing the settings to prevent the
linkage from blowing it would be a better idea to find a recent instance of
your WF (no doubt you have an errored one lying around) and work out the
problem is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You might, for example, have an intermittent issue that is
data related, e.g. A binding error like ObjectA.ObjectB.Attribute where ObjectB
is null.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">MGT<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 23 Jun 2010, at 09:08, "Dart, Jocelyn" <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com"><a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just
check the settings on the basic data tab. Karl has already indicated that
the critical field is the Behavior on Error Feedback</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu"><a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a></a> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patil, Priyank<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 23 June 2010 5:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D">Could you please explain me in detail regarding the settings in
the </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Queue Administration (SWEQADM) for workflows. As Iam not much
aware in that. Please let me know the settings that should be done.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dart, Jocelyn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes –
that’s exactly the sort of behaviour that suggests you are getting failed
linkages that are being deactivated by the Event Queue Administration settings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patil, Priyank<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 23 June 2010 5:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D">Once I login into Prod and activate, it starts to work
perfectly. But after some days it will get inactive automatically, even for
standard workflows. Again I need to login and activate it. Its like an extra
rework for us.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Nietz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Workflows getting inactive in Prod frequently</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">It
is likely that you have the type linkage setting for your triggering event set
to 'Deactivation of Linkage' when an error occurs (parameter 'Behaviour Upon
Error Feedback'). You should change this to something more benign.
Also check the report of workflows in error (SWI2_DIAG) to see if you
have workflows in error, and review and clear them.</span><span lang="EN-US"> <br>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karl
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We are facing serious a problem in production. The workflows which
are existing in Prod are automatically getting inactive. The event link in SWDD
are getting inactive frequently and the mail/workitems are not getting
triggered. Since every time we need to login to Prod and activate the event
linkage in the workflow builder. Is there any permanent solution for this??.We
are into Ecc6.</span><span lang="EN-US"> <br>
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