Correlation in workflow

Tue Jun 8 12:34:46 EDT 2010

Hi All,

I have tested the correlation via wait events of Workflow in SAP. But I need
to know the performance side of correlation and how does it internally work.

The workflow I am implementing is of high volume(10,000 per week). My only
question is by implementing correlation will affect performance of the
system.

Please let know your answers & suggestions so that I can give a quite a deep
thinking before implementing the same in this scenario without adverse
effect.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Guru Dutt

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, <sap-wug-request at mit.edu> wrote:

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> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:26:18 +1000
> From: Sandy <maorriyan.santoso at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: BPM approvals
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> Hi Jocelyn.
> Hopefully this thread is not outdated yet.
>
> 1. Does this mean BRM is the only solution to determine work item
> recipient?
> Does this mean agent determination in BPM has less flexibility and less SAP
> template on determining agent i.e. SAP Workflow has built in to determine
> initiator's manager?
>
> 2. If BRM is the only option to determine agent, does BRM can be used in
> escalation management where factory calendar need to be take into account?
>
> 3. If there is no direct connection with organisation structure/ enterprise
> structure, does this mean BPM can not utilise HR evaluation path?
>
> 4. Can you elaborate forwarding/ substitution a little harder for
> long-running scenarios?
>
> 5. Does BPM has configuration such Task Profile where we can put some
> restriction on forward and and substitution process?
>
> My mindset still full with SAP Workflow concept, still trying to understand
> what we can sell on BPM
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Dart, Jocelyn <jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> >wrote:
>
> >  Hi Karl,
> >
> > At the moment these are the major approaches for agent assignment in BPM:
> >
> >
> >
> > a)      Use UME/Portal user groups/roles/user ids directly (actually
> > groups are really useful for identifying teams of people)
> >
> > b)      Calculate the agents using a BRM rule (e.g. using a decision
> > table) and return as a (list of ) UME/Portal user group/role/user id(s)
> >
> > c)       Call a web service to calculate the agents and return as a (list
> > of) UME/Portal user group/role/user id(s)
> >
> >
> >
> > There are mapping functions pre-provided to e.g. convert a regular unique
> > user id to a UME/Portal user id equivalent.
> >
> >
> >
> > There?s no direction connection to the backend org chart? not a big deal
> > for finding the original agents, but means you need to think about
> > forwarding/substitution a little harder for long-running scenarios.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jocelyn
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > Behalf Of *Karl Nietz
> > *Sent:* Friday, 7 May 2010 4:49 PM
> >
> > *To:* sap-wug at mit.edu
> > *Subject:* BPM approvals
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Further to Jocelyn's response below, is there any documentation or a blog
> > that explains how BPM actually supplants workflow for simple processess
> such
> > as PO approval, as indicated?  I've checked the ES simple sample
> > applications and the purchase requisition approval example seems to gloss
> > over the issue, or at least appears to be using an underlying workflow
> > template for steps such as agent assignment.  Or is this the whole thrust
> of
> > the BPM/workflow relationship?  A chap called Kenichi has a 1hour podcast
> on
> > SDN but the screens are unreadable.  Anything to get me started would be
> > helpful.
> >
> >  Karl
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Karl Nietz/AUS/CSC on 06/05/2010 01:49 PM -----
> >
> > From:
> >
> > "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> >
> > To:
> >
> > "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >
> > Date:
> >
> > 06/05/2010 01:18 PM
> >
> > Subject:
> >
> > RE: This Group
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > Just adding the SAP employee perspective... and by the way I'm Product
> Lead
> > for NW BPM in ANZ Field Services this year.
> >
> > I agree currently NW BPM and Workflow should be considered as
> > complementary.  Mainly due to existing business content and solution
> > maturity issues.   Also yes Workflow will not be going away anytime soon.
> > It is however possible to use NW BPM instead of Workflow for a new site
> > that does not use workflow at all for scenarios that we would previously
> > have done in workflow (e.g. purchase order approval) - provided current
> > limitations/restrictions are understood and this is happening at some
> sites.
> >
> >
> > A lot of the concepts and issues around process handling are the same.
> > We currently have a BPM forum in SDN, so the question for this forum is:
> as
> > BPM usage grows do you want to start covering that area as well or just
> > stick with traditional workflow?
> >
> > I can't give any official details on future releases yet but I can
> confirm
> > generally that we are expecting some better integration options between
> > workflow and NW BPM when we get to 7.3 on both the backend and NW BPM
> > platforms most likely around business event management and calling of
> > ABAP-based applications.   We also expect some sort of import for 7.3
> > although I don't expect we will be translating from workflow to BPM or
> vice
> > versa - more likely import of a model from business process modelling
> > applications.  I don't expect workflow to be further developed - although
> I
> > agree BPMN is easier to work with and enables better cross communication
> > between business and IT.
> >
> > If anyone has any specific questions I'm happy to provide what
> information
> > I can.  There are trial versions available on SDN if you want to have a
> play
> > with NW BPM, or try out the pre-built Simple Sample Applications on the
> > ESWorkplace site.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jocelyn
> >
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Regards,
Guru Dutt
Tel : +919748445814
Email : gurudutt.sap at gmail.com
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