<div>Hi All,</div>
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<div>I have tested the correlation via wait events of Workflow in SAP. But I need to know the performance side of correlation and how does it internally work. </div>
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<div>The workflow I am implementing is of high volume(10,000 per week). My only question is by implementing correlation will affect performance of the system.</div>
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<div>Please let know your answers & suggestions so that I can give a quite a deep thinking before implementing the same in this scenario without adverse effect.</div>
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<div>Thanks in advance.</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Guru Dutt</div>
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:26:18 +1000<br>From: Sandy <<a href="mailto:maorriyan.santoso@gmail.com">maorriyan.santoso@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: BPM approvals<br>To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>><br>
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<br>Hi Jocelyn.<br>Hopefully this thread is not outdated yet.<br><br>1. Does this mean BRM is the only solution to determine work item recipient?<br>Does this mean agent determination in BPM has less flexibility and less SAP<br>
template on determining agent i.e. SAP Workflow has built in to determine<br>initiator's manager?<br><br>2. If BRM is the only option to determine agent, does BRM can be used in<br>escalation management where factory calendar need to be take into account?<br>
<br>3. If there is no direct connection with organisation structure/ enterprise<br>structure, does this mean BPM can not utilise HR evaluation path?<br><br>4. Can you elaborate forwarding/ substitution a little harder for<br>
long-running scenarios?<br><br>5. Does BPM has configuration such Task Profile where we can put some<br>restriction on forward and and substitution process?<br><br>My mindset still full with SAP Workflow concept, still trying to understand<br>
what we can sell on BPM<br><br>Cheers.<br><br>On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Dart, Jocelyn <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>>wrote:<br><br>> Hi Karl,<br>><br>> At the moment these are the major approaches for agent assignment in BPM:<br>
><br>><br>><br>> a) Use UME/Portal user groups/roles/user ids directly (actually<br>> groups are really useful for identifying teams of people)<br>><br>> b) Calculate the agents using a BRM rule (e.g. using a decision<br>
> table) and return as a (list of ) UME/Portal user group/role/user id(s)<br>><br>> c) Call a web service to calculate the agents and return as a (list<br>> of) UME/Portal user group/role/user id(s)<br>><br>
><br>><br>> There are mapping functions pre-provided to e.g. convert a regular unique<br>> user id to a UME/Portal user id equivalent.<br>><br>><br>><br>> There?s no direction connection to the backend org chart? not a big deal<br>
> for finding the original agents, but means you need to think about<br>> forwarding/substitution a little harder for long-running scenarios.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Hope that helps.<br>><br>> Regards,<br>
><br>> Jocelyn<br>><br>><br>><br>> *From:* <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] *On<br>> Behalf Of *Karl Nietz<br>
> *Sent:* Friday, 7 May 2010 4:49 PM<br>><br>> *To:* <a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a><br>> *Subject:* BPM approvals<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Hi,<br>><br>> Further to Jocelyn's response below, is there any documentation or a blog<br>
> that explains how BPM actually supplants workflow for simple processess such<br>> as PO approval, as indicated? I've checked the ES simple sample<br>> applications and the purchase requisition approval example seems to gloss<br>
> over the issue, or at least appears to be using an underlying workflow<br>> template for steps such as agent assignment. Or is this the whole thrust of<br>> the BPM/workflow relationship? A chap called Kenichi has a 1hour podcast on<br>
> SDN but the screens are unreadable. Anything to get me started would be<br>> helpful.<br>><br>> Karl<br>><br>> ----- Forwarded by Karl Nietz/AUS/CSC on 06/05/2010 01:49 PM -----<br>><br>> From:<br>
><br>> "Dart, Jocelyn" <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>><br>><br>> To:<br>><br>> "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>><br>
><br>> Date:<br>><br>> 06/05/2010 01:18 PM<br>><br>> Subject:<br>><br>> RE: This Group<br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Hi Mike,<br>> Just adding the SAP employee perspective... and by the way I'm Product Lead<br>
> for NW BPM in ANZ Field Services this year.<br>><br>> I agree currently NW BPM and Workflow should be considered as<br>> complementary. Mainly due to existing business content and solution<br>> maturity issues. Also yes Workflow will not be going away anytime soon.<br>
> It is however possible to use NW BPM instead of Workflow for a new site<br>> that does not use workflow at all for scenarios that we would previously<br>> have done in workflow (e.g. purchase order approval) - provided current<br>
> limitations/restrictions are understood and this is happening at some sites.<br>><br>><br>> A lot of the concepts and issues around process handling are the same.<br>> We currently have a BPM forum in SDN, so the question for this forum is: as<br>
> BPM usage grows do you want to start covering that area as well or just<br>> stick with traditional workflow?<br>><br>> I can't give any official details on future releases yet but I can confirm<br>> generally that we are expecting some better integration options between<br>
> workflow and NW BPM when we get to 7.3 on both the backend and NW BPM<br>> platforms most likely around business event management and calling of<br>> ABAP-based applications. We also expect some sort of import for 7.3<br>
> although I don't expect we will be translating from workflow to BPM or vice<br>> versa - more likely import of a model from business process modelling<br>> applications. I don't expect workflow to be further developed - although I<br>
> agree BPMN is easier to work with and enables better cross communication<br>> between business and IT.<br>><br>> If anyone has any specific questions I'm happy to provide what information<br>> I can. There are trial versions available on SDN if you want to have a play<br>
> with NW BPM, or try out the pre-built Simple Sample Applications on the<br>> ESWorkplace site.<br>><br>> Regards,<br>> Jocelyn<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> SAP-WUG mailing list<br>
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