SAP workflows and BPM

Tue Jun 1 12:53:39 EDT 2010

Sue,

Thanks for the info. Very useful.

Claude
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL
Sent: June 01, 2010 11:12 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: SAP workflows and BPM

Hi Will,

This is no doubt something we will all be struggling to grasp in the
nearer future (for those of us who have not already grasped it, which
certainly includes me).

As far as I know, SAP's party line is that Workflow will continue to be
the engine of choice within an SAP system (also please refer to
BestBuiltApps, at
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/bestbuiltapps?rid=/library/uuid/d0619693-
ce8f-2c10-07b5-fc222ad36370) - I have extracted the relevant passage
here:

Business Process Modeling

SOA-BPM-2. SAP recommends that ISVs use SAP NetWeaver BPM

for business process modeling. SAP also recommends that ISVs use

the SAP Business Workflow tool for workflows within a pure, ABAP

single-instance application. SAP does not recommend using:

SAP Business Connector, which * has been retired and

replaced with functionality in SAP NetWeaver

* Workflow Modeler, except for ISV solutions that enhance

SAP CRM

* SAP NetWeaver Business Warehouse process chains

(process chains are recommended for loading but not for

workflow)

* SAP NetWeaver MDM workflow

* Java ad-hoc workflows

For more information on business process modeling, go to http://www.sdn.

sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-processmodeling.

We in the workflow community (ASUG and SCN for me) are working with some
BPM folks to get more educational material out - and to bridge this gap,
if only in perception.  

I will be monitoring this discussion closely - and value the opinions of
this varied group.

Regards,

Sue

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Susan R. Keohan

SAP Workflow Specialist

MIT Lincoln Laboratory

244 Wood Street

LI-200

Lexington, MA. 02420

Phone: 781-981-3561

Fax:   781-981-1607

keohan at ll.mit.edu <mailto:keohan at ll.mit.edu> 

From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Will Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:31 AM
To: sap-wug at mit.edu
Subject: SAP workflows and BPM

Hi experts,

I'm familiar with SAP business workflow, but I understand there is a
product called NetWeaver BPM (as appears here
http://www.brsilver.com/2009/01/21/netweaver-bpm-and-saps-bpm-strategy/)
. Here's the differences as I figured out so far (my main source was
SAP's site on it,
http://www.sap.com/platform/netweaver/components/sapnetweaverbpm/index.e
px)
1) SAP business workflow is ABAP based, Netweaver BPM is Java Based
2) Model in SAP business workflow is done in SDD, in Netweaver BPM
there's an eclipse plugin, and the model is based on BPMN.

The main questions that I have are:
1) Are there any other differences?
2) Which product is "better" (and what do you call "better" :-) )
3) How common is Netweaver BPM compared to SAP business workflow?
4) Is SAP's future in Netweaver BPM or in SAP business workflow?
5) Which version of Netweaver includes NetWeaver BPM? Is it a basic
component of Netweaver, or an additional product?

Thanks and regards,
Will

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