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<DIV><SPAN class=115175316-01062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sue,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=115175316-01062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=115175316-01062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
for the info. Very useful.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=115175316-01062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=115175316-01062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Claude</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Keohan, Susan - 1140 -
MITLL<BR><B>Sent:</B> June 01, 2010 11:12 AM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP Workflow Users'
Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: SAP workflows and BPM<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Will,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This is no doubt something we
will all be struggling to grasp in the nearer future (for those of us who have
not already grasped it, which certainly includes me).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As far as I know, SAP’s party
line is that Workflow will continue to be the engine of choice within an SAP
system (also please refer to BestBuiltApps, at <A
href="http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/bestbuiltapps?rid=/library/uuid/d0619693-ce8f-2c10-07b5-fc222ad36370">http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/bestbuiltapps?rid=/library/uuid/d0619693-ce8f-2c10-07b5-fc222ad36370</A>)
– I have extracted the relevant passage here:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #33bbff; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Business Process
Modeling<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">SOA-BPM-2.
SAP recommends that ISVs use SAP NetWeaver BPM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">for
business process modeling. SAP also recommends that ISVs
use<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">the<B>
</B></SPAN><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black">SAP Business Workflow tool for
workflows within a pure, ABAP<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><I><SPAN style="COLOR: black">single-instance
application</SPAN></I></B><I><SPAN style="COLOR: black">.</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">
SAP does not recommend using:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">SAP
Business Connector, which </SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #33bbff; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">•
</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">has
been retired and<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">replaced
with functionality in SAP NetWeaver<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #33bbff; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">•
</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">Workflow
Modeler, except for ISV solutions that enhance<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">SAP
CRM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #33bbff; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">•
</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">SAP
NetWeaver Business Warehouse process chains<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">(process
chains are recommended for loading but not for<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">workflow)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #33bbff; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">•
</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">SAP
NetWeaver MDM workflow<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #33bbff; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">•
</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia-BoldItalic','serif'">Java
ad-hoc workflows<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">For more
information on business process modeling, go to </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'ArialMT','sans-serif'">http://www.sdn.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'ArialMT','sans-serif'">sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-processmodeling</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">We in the workflow community
(ASUG and SCN for me) are working with some BPM folks to get more educational
material out – and to bridge this gap, if only in perception.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I will be monitoring this
discussion closely – and value the opinions of this varied
group.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sue<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">---<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Susan
R. Keohan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">SAP
Workflow Specialist<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">MIT
Lincoln Laboratory<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">244
Wood Street<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">LI-200<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Lexington, MA.
02420<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Phone:
781-981-3561<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Fax:
781-981-1607<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"><A
href="mailto:keohan@ll.mit.edu"><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">keohan@ll.mit.edu</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Will Weiss<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
sap-wug@mit.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> SAP workflows and
BPM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hi experts,<BR><BR>I'm familiar with SAP business workflow,
but I understand there is a product called NetWeaver BPM (as appears here <A
href="http://www.brsilver.com/2009/01/21/netweaver-bpm-and-saps-bpm-strategy/"
target=_blank>http://www.brsilver.com/2009/01/21/netweaver-bpm-and-saps-bpm-strategy/</A>).
Here's the differences as I figured out so far (my main source was SAP's site on
it, <A
href="http://www.sap.com/platform/netweaver/components/sapnetweaverbpm/index.epx"
target=_blank>http://www.sap.com/platform/netweaver/components/sapnetweaverbpm/index.epx</A>)<BR>1)
SAP business workflow is ABAP based, Netweaver BPM is Java Based<BR>2) Model in
SAP business workflow is done in SDD, in Netweaver BPM there's an eclipse
plugin, and the model is based on BPMN.<BR><BR>The main questions that I have
are:<BR>1) Are there any other differences?<BR>2) Which product is "better" (and
what do you call "better" :-) )<BR>3) How common is Netweaver BPM compared to
SAP business workflow?<BR>4) Is SAP's future in Netweaver BPM or in SAP business
workflow?<BR>5) Which version of Netweaver includes NetWeaver BPM? Is it a basic
component of Netweaver, or an additional product?<BR><BR>Thanks and
regards,<BR>Will<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV><pre>====================================================================================
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