[LIKELY JUNK]Starting a HCM process from within an existing HCM process

[Tor Magne Refsland]

Hi Jocelyn,

I have some questions regarding possible option 1.

I do understand that creating one big process containing all the forms and connected to one big wf template is the best solution.

- However, I am wondering if it is it possible to have 2 processes, Process A and Process B, connected to the same workflow, where the WF passes fields from a form in Process A to a form in Process B?

The reason why I ask, is that we have several different processes today with their own WFs.

In some scenarios process B should be extending the previous process (process A). It would be easier to connect both existing processes to a WF, compared to making one big Process.

- What is the main benefit of having a subworkflow or a local workflow ? Would it be benefitial to use that in my scenario ?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Tor
Subject: RE: [LIKELY JUNK]Starting a HCM process from within an existing HCM	process
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:49:17 +0800
From: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
To: sap-wug at mit.edu










Hi Tor, 
 
Possible options are:
 
1. Create a process Z_PROCESS_C which covers all possible forms of 
the business scenario - remember you don't have to use EVERY form in every 
process instance - the workflow controls when and who gets to start the new 
form.
In this case you would include a checkbox or similar on your form 
to indicate if the extra form is required.  This is the best approach as 
you can pass fields between forms, and you can represent the super process with 
it's own workflow template - even use subflows to share the common parts of the 
processing.  
 
2. Use the Links (i.e. the Link List) to call the web dynpro 
application to start the new process - but of course you won't be able to 
pass any fields across to the new form.  The advantage of this is that the 
second form is brought up immediately in a second window but you break the 
tracking of the process as there is no relationship between the first and second 
forms or their processes. 
 
3. Use a button on the form to set a hidden field and use the 
hidden field in a Generic Service to raise a workflow event to trigger the new 
process - the first step of which is to bring the form in the UWL to the person 
who pressed the button.
But be careful of LUW issues - you may need to wait for them to 
Send the current form before the event can be triggered.  But you break the 
tracking of the process as there is no relationship between the first and second 
forms or their processes. 
 
4. Use JavaScripts on the form to build a more sophisticated URL 
to call the new process - this is possible but requires some good JavaScript 
knowledge.  Again the form would be brought up immediately but you break 
the tracking process, and would realistically only be able to pass *very* 
limited information to the new form. 
 
Option 1 is the best practice recommended approach - as this gives 
you proper tracking across the ENTIRE process - regardless of which forms are 
included.  Remember form scenarios are independent objects can be 
included in multiple HCM processes. 
 
Hope that helps. 
Regards,
Jocelyn



From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu 
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Tor Magne 
Refsland
Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2009 8:27 PM
To: SAP 
WUG list
Subject: [LIKELY JUNK]Starting a HCM process from within an 
existing HCM process


Dear experts,
 
I am using HCM processeses in SAP, where I 
have connected several forms to one process, which again is connected to a 
workflow. This basically means that I am passing fieldvalues from one form to 
another using workflow. 
 
Case:
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I am using t-code 
HRASR_DT
 
Let us say I have process Z_PROCESS_A, which contains form 
ZFA1, ZFA2 and ZFA3.
I also have another process called Z_PROCESS_B, which 
contains for ZFB1 and ZFB2.
 
Related to this subject I have several 
questions:
 
I want a link/button in form ZFA3, which will start form 
ZFB1(in process z_process_b) and pass on the same field values from previous 
form.

My question are:
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1. 
"Is it possible to 
make a button/link in a PDF form, which can take you directly to another form in 
another process, and bring the field-values to the new 
form?"
 
2.
"Is there any way to start a HCM process from within 
another HCM process?"
 
Restrictions:
------------
Since we are 
in the last phase of the project, I am not permitted to do any changes in the 
XML configuration for UWL. 
 
 
Thanks in advance.
Best 
regards,
Tor




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