[LIKELY JUNK]Extended Notifications runtime

Dart, Jocelyn jocelyn.dart at sap.com
Mon Feb 16 21:13:44 EST 2009


Hi Karl, 
There is definitely more than one SAP Note to apply - please make sure
you look for all notes relating to the performance of SWN_SELSEN  or
SWNCONFIG.
Regards,
Jocelyn 

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Hi Jocelyn, 

I've been investigating a number of your suggestions.  I am attempting
to create notifications for leave approvals in the dev system (a backup
of prod) and when running swn_selsen/swn_selsen_test it runs forever.
Last night for 6 hours until the system went down, which is indeed long.
I have established that there are 870 leave approvals in 'Ready' status
(and 1000's of 'completed' as archiving is not done in this site).  Is
this number (780) likely to be deleterious?  The SM50 txn seems to show
the program performing a sequential read of table SWWLOGHIST which
contains 24,000,000 records(!). This makes me nervous and I asked an
ABAPer to check note 1105696.  This note is applicable to SAPKB70015 but
we are running SAPKB70017 and an initial check indicated we had the
changes. Is there another note that I have overlooked?    It's worth
mentioning that the program runs acceptably for a different schedule
referencing a workflow I execute via SWUI_VERIFY - for this workflow
there are almost no prior instances.  Trying to manually complete 870
leave approval instances is not going to be easy so if you have any
other ideas based on this info i would appreciate it.  Thanks. 

Karl Nietz
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CSC Australia
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Try SWN_SELSEN_TEST to play around with the timestamp.  And apply the
SAP Notes around performance.... important! 
Jocleyn 


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Thanks, I was wondering whether that was the case.  Does the program
read every record in 'Ready' status and then apply the task filter? - if
so then it will be a long slog.  Is there a way to initialise the
date/timestamp so that the program starts from the current date?
Otherwise i see a similar situation when moving to prod.  Thanks. 

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Hi Karl, 
If you have a lot of work items in READY status hanging around then the
first run of the program can be very long.  It's even worse if most of
your users don't have email addresses yet while the system exhausts all
options trying to find an email address.  Both typical scenarios in a
DEV System. 
 
So if you can do a bit of cleansing of dead work items first. 
 
You should also look for and apply performance notes - search
service.sap.com/notes using the term SWN_SELSEN or SWNCONFIG.  Depending
on your release/support pack it's definitely worth applying some of
these as well. 
Regards, 
Jocelyn 

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Thanks Jocelyn.  This reaffirmed things well.  I have query about the
Delta setting, which I presume relates to entering for items new or
changed since last run, rather than all items. Whe I config this and run
SWN_SELSEN_TEST with schedule id of xxxxxx_delta and a test case of 10
the program runs interminably.  Doesn't seem to end so I cancel it.  Is
this a config error or is it because it is reading through all data in
the system?  I there a way to address this? 
Karl Nietz


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Hi Karl ... it's not under my name... 

The blog search is playing up for me today.. sigh... 

Basically there are 5 steps: 
1. Create a delivery schedule 
2. In scenario WORKFLOW category STANDARD, create a subscription and set
up your subscription parameters. 
Set the Granularity to the multiple option, set the recipient to * using
the CL_SWN_SUBSCRIPTION handler - this identifies all agents who have an
email address maintained 
3. Set up schedule selection for DELTA 
4. Adjust your general settings - particularly the email address
determination priorities (number them 1 to 4) - URL fragments for links
and adjust texts - texts starting NA are SE91 T100 messages, texts
starting DT are SE61 dialog texts. 
5. Schedule a job for program SWN_SELSEN with WF-BATCH as the executing
user and of course matching your delivery schedule/schedule selection
time. 

I usually start with a Monday to Friday - hourly during business hours
approach and keep both schedules the same until you know what you are
doing. 

Hope that helps. 
Regards, 
Jocelyn 



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Hi Jocelyn, 

Must admit I couldn't find your blog on SDN (I'm assuming you are the
author).  I had a good look but no success. Can you please send along
the link when you get a moment.  Thanks. 

Karl Nietz
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Jerry - there's a blog on SDN which gives you the basics.  Don't have
the link on me but you should be able to find it easily enough.
Regards,Jocelyn 


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        We are moving to ECC6 6.0 so this is my 1st attempt using
Extended Notifications. 
     I have it working for 1 "filter" but what do I need to do to add
more filters? 
     Can I add more filters for the same Subscription? 
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