Approval Limits for Travel Expenses
Dart, Jocelyn
jocelyn.dart at sap.com
Fri Jun 6 09:16:23 EDT 2008
Hi John,
I think you must be looking at the wrong doco. Personalization object
keys have NOTHING to do with Portal iviews.
Look at transaction PERSREG and transaction SPERS_MAINT. If you use the
standard storage the data itself is held in table SPERS_OBJ. A good
example of a matrix type attribute for roles is "RESOURCE" - this shows
how easy it is to create personalization a function module calling
standard table handling routines. You can also very rapidly create a
personalization key using a dictionary structure or table type.
Personalization data is maintained on the Personalization tab of the
User Master (transaction SU01) or the Security Role (transaction PFCG).
Users can only maintain personalization keys if they have access to SU01
and the key has been enabled for user masters (it can be enabled for
roles only) and they have sufficient authorization to maintain the data.
There is no option for changing Personaliation keys via the Portal.
Roles can of course be linked to positions or jobs.
Yes attributes (infotype 1222) assigned to positions or org units are
another possible option. Be aware that to maintain attributes correctly
in this way you MUST use one of the PPOMA* transactions - using PA30,
PO13, or PO10 does not give access to the "attribute scenario" which is
critical to correct maintenance of these attributes.
Key things to consider when deciding which way to go:
* How complex are the attributes? - Matrices are easier to manage via
personalization object keys. Extended attributes are possible but
involve greater coding effort.
* What minimizes the maintenance burden? If your delegations are in a
discrete set of bands then this is easier to manage via security
roles/personalization object keys rather than having to maintain
attributes for every org unit/position. If the delegations are more
subjective, attributes may be better.
* Are the delegations for a user based on the position they hold (....
use attributes) or their security level (.... use personalization keys
on roles) or are they assigned personally to them (... use
personalization keys on users)?
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Jocelyn Dart
Senior Consultant
SAP Australia Pty Ltd.
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of John A Haworth
Sent: Friday, 06 June 2008 8:47 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: Approval Limits for Travel Expenses
Thanks Jocelyn,
One last question, promise. Is there an advantage of 'Personalisation'
over 'Attributes (PPOMA)' against an organisational unit, my thoughts
are that personalization seem to be for use via iviews and the portal
and could be seen by and potentially changed by the user. Whereas
attributes would be master data and only changed by the relevant
authorised person in Org Management and could be against a Position or
Job. I am trying to represent a delegated list of authority with
approval limits, so perhaps the Attributes approach would be more
suited?
Many Thanks
John
CSC Computer Sciences Limited
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Hi John,
Yes I've used this approach at some sites - especially where the limits
are matrixed - e.g. different limits per travel category. Works well.
Regards,
Jocelyn
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Sent: Thu 5/06/2008 7:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Approval Limits for Travel Expenses
Thanks for that, and do you think that personalisation would be a
suitable place to hold the 'Approval Amount'?
Again, many thanks for your advice.
Kind Regards
John
CSC Computer Sciences Limited
Registered Office: Royal Pavilion, Wellesley Road, Aldershot, Hampshire,
GU11 1PZ, UK
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Hi John,
Yes Personalization is available in all SAP ABAP systems since R/3 4.6C.
Only difference is you need to create your own personalization key in
transaction PERSREG and create the necessary coding to read it.
There's a whole section on it in the Help library - look for
Personalization.
Regards,
Jocelyn
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Sent: Wed 4/06/2008 10:44 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Approval Limits for Travel Expenses
Hi
I am looking in ECC6.0, at where would be best to hold Travel expenses
Approval limits. I remember that in SRM Org Management in the extended
attributes or personalisation there is an approval limit amount, but
dont think this is available in ECC6 Org Management. Has anyone had a
similar issue and any thoughts on where this amount would be best held?
Thanks
Regards
John
CSC Computer Sciences Limited
Registered Office: Royal Pavilion, Wellesley Road, Aldershot, Hampshire,
GU11 1PZ, UK
Registered in England No: 0963578
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