Fw: UWL - refresh inbox after workitem execution?
Mike Pokraka
wug at workflowconnections.com
Wed Aug 6 19:08:20 EDT 2008
Paul,
There are a lot of technical hurdles in making it work. The main problem is
that the UWL is designed to handle anything you throw at it - which it does
quite well. The downside here is that it has to cater for the lowest common
denominator and standardize on that. In this case it's a back-end/SAPGUI
task which launches in a separate WinGUI window where all communication gets
lost, therefore the UWL can never know when a task finishes.
Technically this doesn't happen anyway. The UWL doesn't 'know' because
there's no transaction concept, the key difference to SBWP is that the UWL
*launches* a task. Thus it's the task that needs to signal to the UWL when
it's done. In our case we built some task executions directly into the UWL
so that it executed in it's own subframe, or else the BSP launched by the
task would navigate the user back to the UWL upon completion. In other words
the task does the refresh (sortof). Again, this was only possible because we
developed both task and worklist using BSP.
Like I said: if you have a few months to spare....
Cheers,
Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf Of Paul.Bakker at osr.treasury.qld.gov.au
> Sent: 06 August 2008 23:11
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: Fw: UWL - refresh inbox after workitem execution?
>
> Guys
>
> That's very interesting...... so it _can_ be done.... but then I wonder
> why
> SAP doesn't enhance
> their own UWL product with nifty features like "self-refreshing after
> every
> workitem execution".
>
> One could say the clients are too demanding, but hey, it's what they're
> used to after using
> SBWP (the SAP-GUI workflow inbox).
>
> thanks for your responses
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Pokraka"
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> Subject
> 07/08/2008 07:55 RE: Fw: UWL - refresh inbox
> after
> AM workitem execution?
>
>
> Please respond to
> "SAP Workflow
> Users' Group"
> <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Why not? Creating your own worklist is great fun :-)
>
> If the client is prepared to put in several months of work, a BSP
> worklist
> does give you a lot of freedom to do things exactly as you want it.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> PS: Yes the above is part joke, part sarcasm, but also entirely true.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Mikko Mäki-Rahkola
> > Sent: 06 August 2008 06:10
> > To: sap-wug at mit.edu
> > Subject: Re: Fw: UWL - refresh inbox after workitem execution?
> >
> > Hi Paul,
> > I guess everyone's on vacation now...
> >
> > Your assumption is true. Apart from the configurable automatic
> refresh
> > rate e.g. set every 60 seconds, you can't force the standard UWL
> > application to refresh upon work item execution. To make it happen,
> > you would need to do quite extensive mods to the standard UWL
> > iView/WD4J application or create your own worklist (I don't recommend
> > neither option).
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Mikko
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:38 AM, <sap-wug-request at mit.edu> wrote:
> > > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:38:01 +1000
> > > From: Paul.Bakker at osr.treasury.qld.gov.au
> > > Subject: Fw: UWL - refresh inbox after workitem execution?
> > > To: sap-wug at mit.edu
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> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > There were no replies to my previous post, so please allow me to
> > rephrase
> > > my question:
> > >
> > > "Is it true that there is _no_ automatic mechanism to refresh the
> UWL
> > after
> > > a workitem has been executed? "
> > >
> > > If someone could please confirm that, I can stop looking... !
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Paul (ECC 6)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Forwarded by Paul Bakker/BNE/QOSR/AU on 06/08/2008 11:32 AM -
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> > > Paul.Bakker at osr.t
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> > > UWL - refresh inbox after
> > workitem
> > > 31/07/2008 04:13 execution?
> > > PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Please respond to
> > > "SAP Workflow
> > > Users' Group"
> > > <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is it possible to configure the UWL so that
> > > once you execute a workitem, it immediately disappears
> > > from the inbox? The users don't want to keep hitting the
> > > 'Refresh' link every time they complete a workitem.
> > >
> > > I have looked at using the 'Delta Pull Mechanism',
> > > but that seems to just do a cache refresh frequently
> > > (eg every 60 seconds), but not *immediately*.
> > >
> > > This must be a common request, but I can't find anything
> > > in the WUG archives on it. Anyone?
> > >
> > > thanks again
> > > Paul (ECC 6)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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