Can't use roles as agents in expressions?

[Edward Diehl]

Mike,
Im gonna go out on a limb here, but, as far as I know, there is no such thing as a dynamic role, as current defined.  A role is a group of entries in table AGR_USERS, grouped by the role id.  These used to be called activity groups before SAP decided to "clarify" things by changing them to roles.  In a way they have always been roles because this is the same table used by SAP security.  Along with the change to "Roles" instead of Activity Groups, workflow roles became "Rules".   I guess if a method dynamically populated your role prior to the instantiation of the work item, it might work, but it has to exist as a predefined list prior to instantiation of the work item.
As before, just don't assign any agents to the runtime agent assignment, or if the syntax checker objects, create a container element EMPTY_AGENT, type wfsyst-agent and make that the runtime agent. (EXPRESSION = EMPTY_AGENT).
 
Please, somebody let me know if I am wrong.  If so, I will begin looking for another line of work.
Ed
 
 



> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:43:28 +0000> Subject: RE: Can't use roles as agents in expressions?> From: asap at workflowconnections.com> To: sap-wug at mit.edu> > Thanks Ed & Ramki.> It has to be a dynamic role so task assignments are not applicable. Client> uses roles instead of rules.> > Workarounds are not an issue, I'm just wondering whether this shouldn't> work as standard. Ramki has indicated that this indeed doesn't work on> other 620 systems so at least I know it's not just our system.> > Cheers,> Mike> > On Thu, March 1, 2007 1:36 pm, Edward Diehl wrote:> > Mike,> > The way you do that is to use the role to define the possible agents and> > then don't assign any agent at all in the task at run time. It will then> > go to all of the possible agents; i.e. your role.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Ed> >> >> > To: sap-wug at mit.eduSubject: Re: Can't use roles as agents in> > expressions?Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:38:03 -0500From: workflow99 at aol.com> > Mike,> >> > I tried the same a couple of years ago on a 6.20 system as well and my> > experience was the same. The agent type in WFSYST-AGENT can only be the> > standard HR org objects like Job, Position, Org Unit etc. Definitely Role> > and Rule do not work that way.> >> > Best Regards,Ramki Maley.> > -----Original Message-----From: asap at workflowconnections.comTo:> > sap-wug at mit.eduSent: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 5:43 AMSubject: Can't use roles as> > agents in expressions?> >> >> > G'Day,> > I just noticed that one cannot use a role in an agent expression. Can> > anyone confirm whether this is supposed to be so or if it's a bug? The> > docs are quiet on the matter.> >> > e.g. in the WF builder I can assign agent type role and assign ZMYROLE.> > Recipients are all users with role ZMYROLE, great.> >> > If I create a container element Agent type WFSYST-AGENT and assign> > AGZMYROLE, the WI ends up with nobody on our 6.20 system.> >> > Of course one can work around this by an extra step/attribute, but just> > wondering whether why I should have to.> > Cheers,> > Mike> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > SAP-WUG mailing list> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug> >> >> >> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free> > from AOL at AOL.com._______________________________________________> > SAP-WUG mailing list> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug> >> > > -- > Mike Pokraka> Senior Consultant> Workflow Connections> Mobile: +44(0)7786 910855> > _______________________________________________> SAP-WUG mailing list> SAP-WUG at mit.edu> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
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