Application independant workflow ?

Mark Pyc mark.pyc at gmail.com
Tue Sep 5 18:54:32 EDT 2006


G'day Phil,

Also think about how you will deliver the work to the agents. How would you
know their details and would you need a SAP licence for all of them (if you
don't already use something pervasive within the org like ESS or maybe SRM).

What would be the interface?

SAP Workflow's advantage is in tight easy intergration with the standard
applicaton through data dictionary and easy resuse through SAP & your custom
code being based in ABAP. Developing for external apps will have it's own
costs over normal internal SAP devts.

Have fun,
Mark

On 9/5/06, Philip Kisloff <pkisloff at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul,
>
> I agree there is the development track, and building up a workflow from
> scratch is the way to do that.
> But, and there is a but, our support model doesn't scale up to make this
> a corporate standard. Say 200
> applications would be using SAP, I would imagine that would be a big SAP
> workflow team needed in place
> for all the custom developments, something perhaps tricky to source.
>
> Now, if we could leverage a packaged solution's customising approach to
> implementation, after the initial
> implementation costs might support could be cheaper and more feasible ?
> Anything dealing with this
> constraint in the new NetWeaver suite ?
>
> Phil
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > Nice question! I haven't done this myself, but can imagine how you might
> > approach it.
> >
> > SAP workflow is designed to work with business objects. For your
> purpose, a
> > custom business object would have to be defined in SAP (as a BOR object
> or
> > a class), while the methods of that object would manipulate an external
> > entity via RFC calls.
> >
> > You could think of this business object as a simple 'proxy' for the
> > external entity. You just need to define the object, its key, and any
> > methods that you need for the workflow (esp Constructor and Display).
> >
> > For example, a 'Change' method might read the external object via an RFC
> > call, present a dialog screen for editing, and save  the results via a
> > second RFC call.
> >
> > I was recently on a job where we built a workflow around a custom
> > application inside SAP (with its own Z tables, dialog screens etc),
> using
> > the same principles. It was surprisingly easy, and works a treat!
> >
> > hope this helps
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anyone had any experience, ideas or knowledge of SAP Business
> > Workflow being used for generic workflow tasks that are not specific to
> > a data object in SAP?
> >
> > I'm asking because I'm evaluating a successor to Domino, which serves as
> > the company standard workflow engine. In the frame is Microsoft Office
> > 2007, which will have in the next year or so a reasonable workflow
> > engine, or so I'm told.
> >
> > Personally, I'm very comfortable with the SAP workflow engine and
> > development environment, but in our company there are many business
> > functions that don't reside in SAP (the majority, in fact).  Can SAP's
> > workflow compete in this area? Obviously, we will install a fresh
> > installation of NetWeaver 04, but not configure any of the applications.
> >
> > Any thoughts, pros and cons would be welcome.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Phil
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