Subsitution and possible agents
Dart, Jocelyn
jocelyn.dart at sap.com
Mon Mar 6 17:31:24 EST 2006
Jerry,
The "activated" substitutions are held on table HRUS_D2 in the backend
systems (this includes both passive and active substitutions).
"Deactivated" substitutions are held on the portal only.
HOWEVER, your backend system must include the SAP_WAPI_SUBST* function
modules to do this.
Regards,
Jocelyn Dart
Senior Consultant
SAP Australia Pty Ltd.
Level 1/168 Walker St.
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of jerry.martinek
Sent: Saturday, 04 March 2006 1:21 AM
To: 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
Subject: RE: RE: Subsitution and possible agents
Hi Jocelyn,
I must have missed something in our system because when I had played
around with the UWL substitutions I didn't see the definitions in our
ERP2005 system(NW2004S). Which backend tables are being updated with the
UWL generated substitutions?
I had also made a similar posting in SDN where I was told that the UWL
substitutions do not get saved in the backend system(SRM5).
https://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=100918&messageID=1116270
#1116270
Can you please clarify.
Jerry
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Dart, Jocelyn
Sent: March 2, 2006 10:33 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: RE: Subsitution and possible agents
Excuse me Jerry but yes they absolutely ARE linked to the backend
system.
In fact when you create a substitute through "Manage Substitutions" it
attempts to create the substitution in ALL linked backend systems.
Regards,
Jocelyn Dart
Senior Consultant
SAP Australia Pty Ltd.
Level 1/168 Walker St.
North Sydney
NSW, 2060
Australia
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of jerry martinek
Sent: Friday, 03 March 2006 4:41 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: RE: Subsitution and possible agents
Hi Baskaran,
There is also the UWL based substitutions that are user/logon id based
and are not liked to the backend system.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Sample <Rick.Sample at gbe.com>
Date: Thursday, March 2, 2006 8:57 am
Subject: RE: Subsitution and possible agents
> Baskaran,
> Just to expand on this topic...
>
> 1. You can sub to anyone.
>
> 2. No authorization checks are made until task is executed.
>
> 3. The substitute may or may not have authorization for all tasks.
> Here, you have
> a few options that you implement to ensure WF does not error out
> and/oruser does not see
> certain tasks. Like HR WFs.
> You can add "classifications" to the tasks and users can
> substitute ALL
> tasks or just these
> specific classified tasks.
>
> If you do not use classifications, you will need to ensure that all
> sub'd WFs have auth
> checks (should be done anyway) and do something like display a message
> that user
> does not have auth for task.
>
> Also, two different types of substitutions exists.
> 1. Personal substitution. This is via UID and stored in HRUS_D2.
> 2. Position substitution. HRP1001
>
> Dig around a bit and let me know if you have any more questions.
> There are reasons (which may not be readily apparent) why we have
> different types.
>
> rick
>
>
> >>> jocelyn.dart at sap.com 3/1/2006 23:57:02 >>>
> Hi Baskaran,
> Yes that is correct functionality. If you were expecting something
> different then you haven't understood the substitution process
> correctly.
> The point of substitution is to allow someone to receive a work item
> on
> behalf of the original recipient - so effectively they are an
> "implicit"
> possible agent by their relationship to the original recipient.
>
> Forwarding is of course a completely separate issue - as then the
> recipient receives the work item on their own behalf, not on
> behalf of
>
> someone else.
>
> Regards,
> Jocelyn Dart
> Senior Consultant
> SAP Australia Pty Ltd.
> Level 1/168 Walker St.
> North Sydney
> NSW, 2060
> Australia
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> M + 61 412 390 267
> E jocelyn.dart at sap.com
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> ________________________________
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> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> Of Baskaran Aluru
> Sent: Thursday, 02 March 2006 2:07 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: Subsitution and possible agents
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
> We have an issue in 4.7 with substitution. A substitute agent is able
> to execute the workitem even though they do not belong to the possible
> agents list. No errors or warnings. Task has "Forwarding not
> allowed"
> set, possible agents come from a Role, and the substitute is not
> assigned to that Role.
>
> Is this an authorization issue? Any clues would be appreciated.
>
> TIA,
> Baskaran.
>
>
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