SWW_WI_START_SIMPLE container (back on subject)

[Mike Pokraka]

Just a thought, would that not be because a WS task is started
asynchronously and a TS synchronous? It seems sensible that the WS task
would kick off the WF template processing (via RFC) and return back to the
calling function before the template compeltes.

I know, it's no longer an issue, but it's an interesting topic.

Cheers
Mike

Kjetil Kilhavn wrote:
> As suggested in a previous answer I believe it is because in 99,99999% of
> the workflow instances the processing time of the multistep task will
> prohibit the function from waiting for a response which includes exporting
> parameters. Thus there isn't really any incentive to implement support -
> which would imply an analysis of the workflow to determine if it is all
> batch with immediate execution.
>
> Perhaps you could hope to receive the exporting parameters if it was a
> single-step task you started instead of a multi-step task.
> --
> Kjetil Kilhavn, Statoil KTJ IT BKS
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>
> Actually not the way I expected to. I ran the workflow synchronously but
> the container did not contain the EXPORTING parameters like I expected
> that it would. So, I just used the WAPI to read the result.
>
> Anyone know what happened to my EXPORTING container params? I am
> curious....
>
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> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of Kjetil Kilhavn
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:57 AM
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> Subject: RE: SWW_WI_START_SIMPLE container (back on subject)
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>
> Does that mean that you actually *did* manage to get container values back
> to the function?
> --
> Kjetil Kilhavn, Statoil KTJ IT BKS
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> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of Alon Raskin
> Sent: 20. juli 2005 19:07
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: SWW_WI_START_SIMPLE container( off subject )
>
>
> Hi Nate,
>
> You are right. Maybe it should not have been implemented as a WF. However
> this was beyond my control.
> I just wanted to see if it was possible (and it was).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alon Raskin
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> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu on behalf of Workflow
> Sent: Tue 7/19/2005 01:08
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: AW: SWW_WI_START_SIMPLE container( off subject )
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>
> Alon
> Have I understood you correctly, that you've been trying to start a WF
> synchronously,  execute immediately the different background steps of the
> WF with the WF-Initiator and return the results of the container to the
> calling context?
>
> If this is the case, and no other agents are involved in the process,
> wouldn't a simple function call with importing / exporting be much easier
> to implement?
>
> just thinking out loud
> Nate
>
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>
> 	I am using FM SWW_WI_START_SIMPLE to call a synchronous WF (see previous
> postings earlier today). Everything seems to be fine but the only thing I
> noticed is that the container (table parameter WI_CONTAINER) is empty and
> does not contain any of the EXPORTING container parameters.
>
> 	I know I can use the WAPI to read the container from the DB but I was
> trying to save the hit to the DB and just get the container value back
> from the FM. Anyone ever do this in the past?
>
>
>
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