AW: Portals and Workflow
M Doe
monica_sap at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 23 13:41:02 EDT 2003
Great News- I am so happy to hear that.
Thanks once again.
Regards,
Monica
>From: "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
>Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
>Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:23:10 +0200
>
>That's the general idea, Monica.
>Jocelyn
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday,23 October 2003 1:55 AM
>To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
>
>
>Thanks Jocelyn.
>
>Just to confirm - the previous note SAPNOTE 487649(workflow restrictions on
>the web) that mentioned the following
>
>*********************************************************************************
> Links to application objects
>
> Unlike the R/3 inbox (SBWP), the Web inbox (BWSP)
>DOES
>NOT support navigation to the assigned application documents such as
>purchase orders, deliveries or leave requests.
>**********************************************************************************
>You are saying that with this new UWL we can now look at the application
>objects so we don't have this restriction on the web anymore. Right?
>
>
>Regards.
>Monica
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> >Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
> >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:42:24 +0200
> >
> >Monica,
> >The new version of the Universal Worklist is 50.5.1 and is available from
> >the iviewstudio.com site now.
> >It was release a couple of weeks ago.
> >Regards,
> > Jocelyn Dart
> >Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
> >and co-author of the book
> >"Practical Workflow for SAP"
> >SAP Australia
> >email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> >phone: +61 412 390 267
> >fax: +61 2 9935 4880
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Saturday,18 October 2003 5:10 AM
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Hi Alan,
> >
> >Since I am having a problem right now displaying the objects on the
>portal,
> >I am very interested in finding out when we can access the object in the
> >universal worklist. You mentioned that it is about to reach your
>doorstep-
> >is it out already in a new release.
> >
> >Can you please give us time guidelines and release info.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Monica
> >
> >
> > >From: "Rickayzen, Alan" <alan.rickayzen at sap.com>
> > >Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: AW: Portals and Workflow
> > >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:44:07 +0200
> > >
> > >Bijay,
> > >Please take a minute to read my blog on http://sdn.sap.com (anyone can
> > >register). The object links in the universal worklist are just about to
> > >reach your doorstep (thanks to the feedback from our last ASUG meeting
>in
> > >May),
> > >Alan
> > >
> > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> > >Von: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
> > >Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2003 21:05
> > >An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Betreff: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank you for clarification.
> > >
> > >Bijay Shrestha
> > >Ph: (763) 764-2201
> > >Pager: (612) 661-2772
> > >Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
> > >"WebFlow gets the right information to the right people at the right
> >time!"
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
> > >Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 8:12 PM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Bijay,
> > >The display of objects is not available in ITS either, similarly
> >secondary
> > >methods are not available in the web inboxes. This is due to issues
> >around
> > >controlling multiple web sessions.
> > >As the UWL has some sort of hyperlink for objects, suggest you query
>OSS
> >as
> > >to how to use these hyperlinks or build your own.
> > >Jocelyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
> > >Sent: Saturday,11 October 2003 4:24 AM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm currently exploring and testing to implement workflow long term
> > >solution via Portal or short term solution using ITS. I'm saying short
> >term
> > >because we are already running ITS for other purpose.
> > >
> > >From reading your posts, I learned that the display of object can not
>be
> > >done in Portal. Is that correct?
> > >
> > >We are using Object Image Display 30001128 to display our archived
> >document
> > >in iXos. So if it can not be used it's kinda useless for us.
> > >
> > >Mark, what do you mean by "t's also obviously meant to be possible as
>the
> > >object are listed with hyperlinks."? Can we have hyperlink instead?
> > >
> > >Bijay Shrestha
> > >Ph: (763) 764-2201
> > >Pager: (612) 661-2772
> > >Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark Pyc [mailto:Mark.Pyc at boots.co.uk]
> > >Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:41 AM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Excellent tips Joc!
> > >
> > >However, in the new sexy format all text formatting is out the window.
>Is
> > >it possible to control line breaks in the long text desciption?? Also
>the
> > >fear of the object links not working is true. It is possible to go the
> >GUI
> > >for HTML view, but it's not pretty. It's also obviously meant to be
> > >possible as the object are listed with hyperlinks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> > >Sent by: SAP Workflow <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > >10/10/2003 08:36
> > >Please respond to SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > >
> > >
> > > To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Mark,
> > >Long time no see.
> > >Yes I have customers using the Universal Worklist iview in the portal
>and
> > >I'm working at one right now.
> > >
> > >Substitutes - easiest approach to create your own iview/transaction to
> > >support it - either just update HRUS_D2 transaction directly or use the
> > >RH_SUBSTIT* function modules. You can then distribute the subsitution
>to
> > >the relevant systems.
> > >
> > >Work item display/User decisions - Make sure you have VERSION 2 of the
> >UWL
> > >(released May) and that you set the paramters ITS Mode and User
>Decision
> > >(something like that) to FALSE rather than true in the UWL
>configuration.
> > >This gives you the new sexy look and feel for the work item display and
> > >for user decisions which is a huge improvement. For reasons of - keep
>it
> > >the same as the last version - they default to TRUE which give you the
> >old
> > >less attractive display.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > > Jocelyn Dart
> > >Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
> > >and co-author of the book
> > >"Practical Workflow for SAP"
> > >SAP Australia
> > >email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> > >phone: +61 412 390 267
> > >fax: +61 2 9935 4880
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark Pyc [mailto:Mark.Pyc at boots.co.uk]
> > >Sent: Friday,10 October 2003 4:31 AM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >G'day Workflowers (no floral reference intended),
> > >
> > >A few general and a few specific...
> > >
> > >Is anyone running a Portal productively and using it as the only
> >interface
> > >to Workflow?
> > >
> > >It is not possible to maintain substitutes via the I-view universal
> > >worklist as I understand it. I also believe this extension was due in
>the
> > >next release of the i-view but this has been put on hold. What has
>anyone
> > >put in place to cope with this? Access to SBWP via GUI for HTML does
> >allow
> > >it, however to me it seems that if users are to be trained on this then
> > >the I-view is redundant. Positional substitutes through HR are possible
> >if
> > >a full Org struct is maintained. Alternatively develop a web
>transaction
> > >to allow updates to HRUS_D2 (directly or via
> > >RH_UPDATE_SUBST_LIST_SERVER)??.
> > >
> > >The display of Workitem (selecting the spectacles) through the Portal
>is
> > >the same as if you select 'User View without Active X' in personal
> > >settings through the GUI. Is this always the case?? The major problem
>is
> > >that the WI description is limited in size depending on your screen
> > >resolution (between 9 and 12 lines) and if navigate at all (scroll the
> > >text, view the Available Objects tab and return, etc) the size is
>reduced
> > >to 1 or 2 lines!?!? This seems completely unusable.
> > >
> > >OSS note 487649 indicates that Advance with Dialog is not possible via
> >the
> > >web. However I've found that Web Transaction steps do Advance with
> >Dialog.
> > >Are there any other treats that make Workflow on the web better?
> > >
> > >User decisions appear as if 'No HTML in execution of decision tasks'
>has
> > >been selected. I understand that i-view Universal Worklist task mapping
> > >allows i-view display of decisions, but I believe this precludes the
> > >ability to display any attachment objects (BUS2081 for example). What
> > >solution have you found most effective.
> > >
> > >Has anyone built custom i-views to cope with any of these issues? Has
> > >anyone developed Business Server Pages? Can anyone give an indication
>of
> > >development costs / required skill sets needed for success???
> > >
> > >I apologise for raking over old issues if these have been covered but
> >I've
> > >had little luck with search sap-wug over the last few days, and OSS
> >hasn't
> > >returned any gems either.
> > >
> > >If you're company has decided that Portals was an unusable solution
>than
> >I
> > >am equally interested in hearing about it.
> > >
> > >Have fun,
> > >Mark Pyc
> > >Smoothflow Consulting
> >
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