Urgent - Transporting Org Chart For Workflow While Implementi ng HR

[Dart, Jocelyn]

Hi Vince,=20
It is possible to transport parts of the org plan and treat these as
configuration data rather than master data using ALE and related =
programs
such as RHMOVE30/50 etc.
 
However you can also create agent determination rules that call another =
system=20
to determine the agent. There is an example of this in the book.=20
 
Whether you replicate your HR org plan or simply evaluate it using RFC =
calls
for agent determination depends mostly on external factors.  Such as:
* Do you need/want to use your HR org plan for anything other than =
agent determination rules  in the non-HR system? -> If yes, replication =
may make sense to keep down the volume of RFC traffic.
* Where do you want to maintain the agent determination data?  If all =
the necessary info lives
in the HR system, then it may make sense to set up a rule in the HR =
system and call it from the=20
other system rather than replicate the HR org plan.=20
 
Suggest you discuss with your friendly local SAP workflow consultant.=20
Regards,
        Jocelyn Dart=20
Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
and co-author of the book
"Practical Workflow for SAP"=20
SAP Australia
email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com=20
phone: +61 412 390 267
fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Vincze =C1rp=E1d [mailto:Arpad.Vincze at itelligence.hu]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2003 11:16 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Urgent - Transporting Org Chart For Workflow While
Implementi ng HR
 
 
This is our problem also ...
 but what is your proposal if the HR system running on a different HW.
 How we can syncronize the master data ?
 
   with ALE Ok,=20
        but what is your suggestion ...
 
  Both system HR and "normal" SAP use Workflow and HR org plan...
 
  Regards:
               Arpad
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:54 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Urgent - Transporting Org Chart For Workflow While =
Implementi
ng HR
 
 
Hi Abby,
Like any other part of the SAP system, you transport configuration data =
and
development
objects but not master data.
 
So you set up your agent determination rules in your development system =
and
transport
those through.  You can even set up the responsibility objects (i.e. =
the
combinations
of criteria) for transport if you wish when using a responsibility =
rule.
 
After the transport, you then assign your HR org plan positions, org =
units,
etc. to the relevant responsibilities
as part of master data setup.
 
The point of using agent determination rules (whether responsibility =
rules,
function module
based rules) or expressions is so that you DON'T assign positions and =
org
units directly
to workflow steps.  Your workflow is a development object and should be
treated as such.
Using positions and org units directly against steps is best kept for
testing purposes only.
 
Regards,
        Jocelyn Dart
Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
and co-author of the book
"Practical Workflow for SAP"
SAP Australia
email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
phone: +61 412 390 267
fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dywan, Abigail [mailto:adywan at clarkstonconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2003 12:20 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Urgent - Transporting Org Chart For Workflow While =
Implementing
HR
 
 
Hi workflow experts -
 
I'm really sorry to bug y'all about this but I have searched all over =
OSS,
and the workflow book, and I can't seem to find an answer anywhere.
 
We are implementing HR along with workflow at my current client.  My
question is - how do we handle agent assignment within workflow =
templates,
and configuration of responsibility rules for roles?  HR is maintaining =
the
org chart, and it's all master data - so the numbers won't be the same =
from
one system to the next.  Will I need to go into each system and =
manually
configure which positions & org units will be handling which steps, and
manually configure responsibility rules within each client?    I'm =
pretty
baffled/worried and any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks so much - hope you're having a wonderful day!
Abby  :)
 
Abby Dywan
 
cell:  (404) 808-3974