[painp] PAIN-P side meeting at November IETF124 (Tue 4 Nov 2025)

Dirk Kutscher ietf at dkutscher.net
Mon Oct 20 15:50:55 EDT 2025


Thanks for the update, Thomas.

Looking forward to an interesting side meeting in Montreal!

Dirk



On 19 Oct 2025, at 19:04, Thomas Hardjono wrote:

> Hi Dirk and folks,
>
> Thank you for the feedback regarding PAIN-P.   (Special thanks to Jérôme, Javier, Dave & Peter).
>
> In order to get a “feel” for the topics for PAIN-P, we plan to have public side meeting and presentations at the IETF124 in Montreal. Below is the proposed Agenda.
>
> In Trello, the PAIN-P timeslot is shown as follows: https://trello.com/c/pNyVWM1q
>
>
> Title:  Proposal for PAIN-P research group in the IRTF.
>
> Date:  4 November 2025 (Tuesday).
>
> Time:  16:30--18:30pm Montreal time (same as US Eastern time).
>
>
>  Proposed Agenda for PAIN-P:
>
> 16:30 – 16:45:  Opening, logistics & draft charter. Thomas Hardjono. [15 mins]
>
> 16:45 – 17:15:  Sandy Pentland (Stanford), “Authenticated and stable Agentic Communications” [30 mins]
>
> 17:15 – 17:45:  Jeremy Kepner (MIT): “What is Normal? A Big Data Observational Science Model of Anonymized Internet Traffic.”  [30 mins]
>
> 17:45 – 18:15:  Kimberly Claffy (UCSD), “CAIDA Presentation”. [30 mins]
>
> 18:15 – 18:30:  Open discussion.
>
>
> I have set-up a temporary mailman mailing-list for PAIN-P here:
>
> https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/painp
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Thomas Hardjono
> Sandy Pentland
> Bruno Lepri

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