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<p dir="auto">Looking forward to an interesting side meeting in Montreal!</p>
<p dir="auto">Dirk</p>
<br><br><p dir="auto">On 19 Oct 2025, at 19:04, Thomas Hardjono wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thank you for the feedback regarding PAIN-P. (Special thanks to Jérôme, Javier, Dave & Peter).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">In order to get a “feel” for the topics for PAIN-P, we plan to have public side meeting and presentations at the IETF124 in Montreal. Below is the proposed Agenda.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">In Trello, the PAIN-P timeslot is shown as follows: <a href="https://trello.com/c/pNyVWM1q" title="https://trello.com/c/pNyVWM1q">https://trello.com/c/pNyVWM1q</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Title: Proposal for PAIN-P research group in the IRTF.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 4 November 2025 (Tuesday).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Time: 16:30--18:30pm Montreal time (same as US Eastern time).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> Proposed Agenda for PAIN-P:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">16:30 – 16:45: Opening, logistics & draft charter. Thomas Hardjono. [15 mins]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">16:45 – 17:15: Sandy Pentland (Stanford), “Authenticated and stable Agentic Communications” [30 mins]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">17:15 – 17:45: Jeremy Kepner (MIT): “What is Normal? A Big Data Observational Science Model of Anonymized Internet Traffic.” [30 mins]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">17:45 – 18:15: Kimberly Claffy (UCSD), “CAIDA Presentation”. [30 mins]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">18:15 – 18:30: Open discussion.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I have set-up a temporary mailman mailing-list for PAIN-P here:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><a href="https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/painp" title="https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/painp">https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/painp</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks again.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thomas Hardjono</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Sandy Pentland</span></p>
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