[OWW-Discuss] Tapping into open source / open access and doingslightly more

Heath Matlock heathmatlock at gmail.com
Thu May 15 01:01:26 EDT 2008


Resent, thanks for the heads up Russell.
Hi everyone else on the mailing list since I've yet to introduce myself :)

Russell, the price to synthesize is decreasing rapidly as Drew Endy and
others have pointed out before, and so the field is becoming a lot more
accessible than it has been in the past. I don't see what you mean by people
not having time to contribute open and wet projects when openwetware is tied
so closely to the Biobricks Foundation, with its public licensed parts.
Perhaps, you meant something completely different though, will you clarify
your statements?

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Russell Hanson <russell2 at qiezi.net> wrote:

> Hey Heath,
>
> Not sure how your headers are set up but it looks to me like you just
> replied to me personally instead of the list as well.  If that is/is not
> what you intended...
>
> Russell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Heath Matlock" <heathmatlock at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:08:28
> To:russell2 at qiezi.net <To%3Arussell2 at qiezi.net>
> Subject: Re: [OWW-Discuss] Tapping into open source / open access and
> doingslightly more
>
>
> Hey Russell and everyone else on the mailing list since I've yet to
> introduce myself :)
>
> The price to synthesize is decreasing rapidly as Drew Endy and others have
> pointed out before, and so the field is becoming a lot more accessible than
> it has been in the past. I don't see what you mean by people not having time
> to contribute open and wet projects when openwetware is tied so closely to
> the Biobricks Foundation, with its public licensed parts. Perhaps, you meant
> something completely different though, could you clarify?
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Russell Hanson <russell2 at qiezi.net<mailto:
> russell2 at qiezi.net> > wrote:
>  Yo Bryan,
>
>  I don't know of any situation where this config/build scenario would apply
> to any domain of molecular biology or molecular engineering.  One of my
> conclusions after trying to teach molecular biophysics, etc. to people well
> versed in Linux, etc.  was that both the level of education needed and the
> money to buy the chemicals and equipment used in the lab have an
> "appropriately" high barrier.  Obviously people have had high-powered PCs in
> their homes since they were kids and you can pick up another for a few
> hundred bucks: not the case for molecular biology/chemical engineering.  The
> people who are in the position to contribute the most in terms of research
> projects are precisely the people who already have so much going on they
> don't contribute to open-source software type projects.  There are not tens
> of thousands of people out there looking for new "open and wet" projects,
> and there isn't the money available from the 'funding agencies' to support
> or supply those "open and wet" projects.  I think the money and educational
> barriers trump the sociological engineering reasons for this.  However, this
> is different from the self-fab and reprap-type stuff....
>
>  peace,
>  Russell
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com <mailto:kanzure at gmail.com> >
>
>  Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 21:22:58
>  To:discuss at openwetware.org <To%3Adiscuss at openwetware.org> <mailto:
> To%3Adiscuss at openwetware.org <To%253Adiscuss at openwetware.org>>
>  Subject: Re: [OWW-Discuss] Tapping into open source / open access and
> doing
>         slightly more
>
>
>  On Wednesday 14 May 2008, "John Cumbers" <johncumbers at gmail.com <mailto:
> johncumbers at gmail.com> > wrote:
>  >  I don't really understand what you are proposing and if you posted
>  > an executive summary then it might prompt more of a discussion.
>
>  It's a software architecture that lets us do what debian did for
>  software -- aggregating tens of thousands of programmers -- but with
>  other projects, on OWW it's science. Instead of a dry wiki, you have a
>  wiki that is built on a file repository, with data files provided by
>  whoever submits content, which can be immediately used in other
>  projects. And then you get easy "apt-get install <centrifuge>"
>  commands, or "apt-get install <uncoli>" etc. I am actually not too good
>  at predicting what projects will show up on the map, but those are
>  valid guesses.
>
>  - Bryan
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