[Olympus] Forwarded message from Stan Belostoski

Douglas Kenneth Hasell hasell at MIT.EDU
Tue Sep 15 06:21:35 EDT 2009


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> Date: September 15, 2009 5:44:35 AM EDT
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> From: "Belostotski, Stanislav" <stanislav.belostotski at desy.de>
> Date: September 15, 2009 5:44:18 AM EDT
> To: Richard G Milner <milner at mit.edu>
> Cc: olympus at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Olympus] Fwd: questions prior to review
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> Dear Richard,
> As for competing experiments (item 1 in Elke's mail), find please  
> attached a slide from my talk in PNPI related to Novosibirsk  
> experiment. The experiment is on the floor and ready to take data.  
> however they have serious problems with running expenses 
> (electricity), which is getting even deeper because of lower  
> luminosity.The projected accuracy is about 1% (blue points). To me a  
> serious drawback of the experiment is poor PID (no magnetic field,  
> bgr.contamination's.
>  With best regards Stanb
>
> Richard G Milner wrote:
>> Dear OLYMPUS colleagues,
>> I received this message from Elke this morning.  We should make an  
>> effort to
>> address these issues in our talks.
>> regards,
>> Richard
>> ----- Forwarded message from elke at kirk.desy.de -----
>>    Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:09:34 +0200 (CEST)
>>    From: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke at kirk.desy.de>
>> Reply-To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke at kirk.desy.de>
>> Subject: questions prior to review
>>      To: "Lehner, Frank" <frank.lehner at desy.de>
>> Dear all,
>> in view of the restricted time tomorrow for the review here some
>> questions, which occurred to me reading the TDR.
>> The questions are organized according to the sections in the TDR.
>> Chapter 1:
>> How does Olympus compare with the other experiments proposed to  
>> study TPE
>> -- advantages and disadvantages
>> Can you elaborate a bit which stability of the detector was reached
>> during the running of BLAST at MIT.
>> Chapter 2:
>> What is the material of the beam pipe.
>> Is Beryllium considered because of synchrotron radiation.
>> Are there drawings of the collimator system including the synchrotron
>> radiation fans depending on their origin.  It was not clear the
>> collimator system is one or two stage.
>> Which type of beam slopes and drifts can be tolerated.
>> Chapter 3:
>> GEM-detectors:
>> It is not completely clear the design for the GEM detector used in  
>> the
>> lumi detector and for the tracking upgrade are the same or  
>> different, if
>> they are different why?
>> In view of the time scale and complexity of the detector would it  
>> not be
>> good to agree on one design.
>> Is there any interference (manpower, components) of the GEMs for the
>> lumi-detector, which are close to the MIT STAR GEM tracker, with the
>> production of the star gem tracker.
>> ToF-system:
>> why is the resolution so bad, for GlueX with similar bars the  
>> resolutions
>> achieved are better than < 100ps
>> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/reviews/Tracking_PID_REVIEW_Mar08/Final%20Talks/T7-tof-smith.pdf
>> yes the bars are wider by a factor of 2 but a factor 3 less  
>> resolution.
>> What is required on resolution for the experiment.
>> Chapter 4:
>> Are there any requirements on the beam position and slope stability
>> page 60: I must admit that I don't understand the statement that  
>> bhabha
>> and moeller scattering are the same. Bhabha scattering has a  
>> scattering
>> and annihilation part in the cross section, moeller has only the
>> scattering part, which makes the cross sections different by factors
>> depending on the energy difference of the 2 leptons. So you must mean
>> something else.
>> The questions on the GEM are listed above.
>> Overall:
>> it would be nice to see a summary on the performance specifications  
>> driven
>> by physics for each of the detector elements.
>> Manpower:
>> Table 8.1
>> column one list faculty are these the people which are counted as  
>> FTEs in
>> column 2 or are they in addition.
>> Do the people in column 5 still need to be found and / or financed?
>> Thanks elke
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