[Macpartners] AppleMail complaint

Thu Feb 1 14:54:21 EST 2007

Hooray for Marion! Her original question is bringing us all out of  
the woodwork! I'm glad to know (as I told her) that I'm not the only  
one missing the editing capabilities of Eudora... Perhaps if others  
who do as well, respond to this thread too, IS&T will look into what  
help may be available.

I'm glad you responded, Kathryn,
Cheers,
Gurukarm

On Feb 1, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Kathryn A Fischer wrote:

> Thank you, Gurukarm and Marion! I thought I was the only one who used
> Eudora the way Gurukarm does.  It's a huge help in my work flow. As
> well as cutting
> down on printing costs and storage.  I'll go to http:// 
> developer.apple.com/
> bugreporter/ as well to log my suggestion.
>
> Kathryn Fischer
> Admin Assistant II
> Aero Astro Dept
>
> Quoting macpartners-request at MIT.EDU:
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>   1. Re: AppleMail complaint (Marion Leeds Carroll)
>>   2. Re: AppleMail complaint (Albert Willis)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:30:29 -0500
>> From: Marion Leeds Carroll <mlcar at MIT.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: [Macpartners] AppleMail complaint
>> To: Macintosh IT Partners <macpartners at MIT.EDU>
>> Message-ID: <58562228-D326-484C-A996-8FA059A14C38 at mit.edu>
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>>
>> Thanks, Gurukarm!  That's a question I dared not ask! - Marion
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Gurukarm Khalsa wrote:
>>
>>> This question actually addresses something I've been complaining
>>> about all along since I switched from Eudora - not the font size,
>>> but the ability to edit an incoming message, either its subject, or
>>> its body text.
>>>
>>> My reasons for wanting to do so are these: not infrequently I get
>>> emails from people who've replied to an old message from me to
>>> bring up a new topic, but not changed the subject line. I need to
>>> keep that new email for reference, but want to change the subject
>>> to match the actual topic, both for visual searching and for search
>>> engine purposes. Also, sometimes I want to edit an email I may get
>>> from my supervisor, for instance, to make notes to myself about
>>> tasks completed or things needed to do, etc.
>>>
>>> I know there are very valid security and privacy reasons to not
>>> allow a user to edit emails they've received, but I was spoiled by
>>> being able to do it in Eudora! And it's really a work-flow issue
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> So, can someone suggest where I can send this request to Apple?
>>> They may never listen, but at least I'll have the satisfaction of
>>> sending it!
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Gurukarm
>>>
>>> Gurukarm K. Khalsa
>>> MIT Dept. of Biology Web Manager & Sr. Admin. Ass't.
>>> 68-132, 617-452-3683  ::  HQ phone: 617-253-4701
>>> http://mit.edu/biology/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Marion Leeds Carroll wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the help I've been receiving!
>> ===============================
>> Marion Leeds Carroll
>> MIT Libraries Web Assistant
>> mlcar at mit.edu | E25-131 | 781.646.9115
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>> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:10:17 -0500
>> From: Albert Willis <awillis at MIT.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: [Macpartners] AppleMail complaint
>> To: Macintosh IT Partners <macpartners at MIT.EDU>
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>> On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Gurukarm Khalsa wrote:
>>
>>> This question actually addresses something I've been complaining
>>> about all along since I switched from Eudora - not the font size,
>>> but the ability to edit an incoming message, either its subject, or
>>> its body text.
>>>
>>> My reasons for wanting to do so are these: not infrequently I get
>>> emails from people who've replied to an old message from me to
>>> bring up a new topic, but not changed the subject line. I need to
>>> keep that new email for reference, but want to change the subject
>>> to match the actual topic, both for visual searching and for search
>>> engine purposes. Also, sometimes I want to edit an email I may get
>>> from my supervisor, for instance, to make notes to myself about
>>> tasks completed or things needed to do, etc.
>>
>> Mail's Organize by Thread feature (in the View menu) groups messages
>> together that are part of the same conversation--even if the subject
>> changes. So you don't need to manually change the subject to keep the
>> messages grouped together. And because every word of every message is
>> indexed by Spotlight, it's not hard to find a message even if the
>> subject changes using Mail's search features.
>>
>> You may recall that Apple has publicly demonstrated that Mail 3.0 in
>> Leopard will support notes and to-do items. You can see these
>> features demonstrated at http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/ 
>> mail.html.
>>
>>
>>> I know there are very valid security and privacy reasons to not
>>> allow a user to edit emails they've received, but I was spoiled by
>>> being able to do it in Eudora! And it's really a work-flow issue
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> So, can someone suggest where I can send this request to Apple?
>>> They may never listen, but at least I'll have the satisfaction of
>>> sending it!
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Gurukarm
>>
>> Unfortunately, Eudora allowed users to do things that other email
>> clients don't allow, usually for the reasons you mentioned--security
>> and privacy. If it's truly a workflow issue, that's something we
>> should look at more in-depth, especially if there are other users in
>> a similar situation.
>>
>> With Mail 3.0 now being developed, now would be a good time to make a
>> suggestion. Here's the info from a message I sent to IT Partners
>> recently. Although it's called a bugreporter, you can also make
>> feature requests as well.
>>
>>> Apple provides the details on how to file a bug report in Radar
>>> (Apple's bug tracking tool) at http://developer.apple.com/
>>> bugreporter/. If you don't already have an Apple Developer
>>> Connection membership, you'll need one to file a bug report; Apple
>>> offers a free online membership.
>>>
>>> If you've never filed a bug with Apple before, please read "Bug
>>> Reporting Best Practices" at http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/
>>> bugbestpractices.html.
>>
>>
>>   -- Al
>>
>>
>> ______________________________
>> Albert Willis
>> Macintosh Platform Coordinator - Software Release Team
>> Client Support Services
>> Information Services and Technology
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> awillis at mit.edu
>>
>>
>>
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