[Macpartners] AppleMail complaint

Thu Feb 1 14:08:07 EST 2007

Thank you, Gurukarm and Marion! I thought I was the only one who used 
Eudora the way Gurukarm does.  It's a huge help in my work flow. As 
well as cutting
down on printing costs and storage.  I'll go to http://developer.apple.com/
bugreporter/ as well to log my suggestion.

Kathryn Fischer
Admin Assistant II
Aero Astro Dept

Quoting macpartners-request at MIT.EDU:
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: AppleMail complaint (Marion Leeds Carroll)
>   2. Re: AppleMail complaint (Albert Willis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:30:29 -0500
> From: Marion Leeds Carroll <mlcar at MIT.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [Macpartners] AppleMail complaint
> To: Macintosh IT Partners <macpartners at MIT.EDU>
> Message-ID: <58562228-D326-484C-A996-8FA059A14C38 at mit.edu>
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> Thanks, Gurukarm!  That's a question I dared not ask! - Marion
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Gurukarm Khalsa wrote:
>
>> This question actually addresses something I've been complaining
>> about all along since I switched from Eudora - not the font size,
>> but the ability to edit an incoming message, either its subject, or
>> its body text.
>>
>> My reasons for wanting to do so are these: not infrequently I get
>> emails from people who've replied to an old message from me to
>> bring up a new topic, but not changed the subject line. I need to
>> keep that new email for reference, but want to change the subject
>> to match the actual topic, both for visual searching and for search
>> engine purposes. Also, sometimes I want to edit an email I may get
>> from my supervisor, for instance, to make notes to myself about
>> tasks completed or things needed to do, etc.
>>
>> I know there are very valid security and privacy reasons to not
>> allow a user to edit emails they've received, but I was spoiled by
>> being able to do it in Eudora! And it's really a work-flow issue
>> for me.
>>
>> So, can someone suggest where I can send this request to Apple?
>> They may never listen, but at least I'll have the satisfaction of
>> sending it!
>>
>> thanks,
>> Gurukarm
>>
>> Gurukarm K. Khalsa
>> MIT Dept. of Biology Web Manager & Sr. Admin. Ass't.
>> 68-132, 617-452-3683  ::  HQ phone: 617-253-4701
>> http://mit.edu/biology/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Marion Leeds Carroll wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the help I've been receiving!
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> mlcar at mit.edu | E25-131 | 781.646.9115
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:10:17 -0500
> From: Albert Willis <awillis at MIT.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [Macpartners] AppleMail complaint
> To: Macintosh IT Partners <macpartners at MIT.EDU>
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> On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Gurukarm Khalsa wrote:
>
>> This question actually addresses something I've been complaining
>> about all along since I switched from Eudora - not the font size,
>> but the ability to edit an incoming message, either its subject, or
>> its body text.
>>
>> My reasons for wanting to do so are these: not infrequently I get
>> emails from people who've replied to an old message from me to
>> bring up a new topic, but not changed the subject line. I need to
>> keep that new email for reference, but want to change the subject
>> to match the actual topic, both for visual searching and for search
>> engine purposes. Also, sometimes I want to edit an email I may get
>> from my supervisor, for instance, to make notes to myself about
>> tasks completed or things needed to do, etc.
>
> Mail's Organize by Thread feature (in the View menu) groups messages
> together that are part of the same conversation--even if the subject
> changes. So you don't need to manually change the subject to keep the
> messages grouped together. And because every word of every message is
> indexed by Spotlight, it's not hard to find a message even if the
> subject changes using Mail's search features.
>
> You may recall that Apple has publicly demonstrated that Mail 3.0 in
> Leopard will support notes and to-do items. You can see these
> features demonstrated at http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/mail.html.
>
>
>> I know there are very valid security and privacy reasons to not
>> allow a user to edit emails they've received, but I was spoiled by
>> being able to do it in Eudora! And it's really a work-flow issue
>> for me.
>>
>> So, can someone suggest where I can send this request to Apple?
>> They may never listen, but at least I'll have the satisfaction of
>> sending it!
>>
>> thanks,
>> Gurukarm
>
> Unfortunately, Eudora allowed users to do things that other email
> clients don't allow, usually for the reasons you mentioned--security
> and privacy. If it's truly a workflow issue, that's something we
> should look at more in-depth, especially if there are other users in
> a similar situation.
>
> With Mail 3.0 now being developed, now would be a good time to make a
> suggestion. Here's the info from a message I sent to IT Partners
> recently. Although it's called a bugreporter, you can also make
> feature requests as well.
>
>> Apple provides the details on how to file a bug report in Radar
>> (Apple's bug tracking tool) at http://developer.apple.com/
>> bugreporter/. If you don't already have an Apple Developer
>> Connection membership, you'll need one to file a bug report; Apple
>> offers a free online membership.
>>
>> If you've never filed a bug with Apple before, please read "Bug
>> Reporting Best Practices" at http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/
>> bugbestpractices.html.
>
>
>   -- Al
>
>
> ______________________________
> Albert Willis
> Macintosh Platform Coordinator - Software Release Team
> Client Support Services
> Information Services and Technology
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> awillis at mit.edu
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