[Macpartners] Re: Apple Software Restore/Carbon Copy Cloner problems on cloning Beige G3s...

[Eric Zelman]

Karem-

For a variety of reasons, Disk Copy is antiquated and should not be 
used- focus your time on Carbon Copy Cloner and NetRestore. How is the 
drive attached- IDE?

On May 21, 2004, at 10:21 AM, Kerem B Limon wrote:

> I am having a heck of a time (not) getting a model Mac OS 9.2.2/X 
> 10.2.8 combination setup cloned across to Power Macintosh G3 
> ("Beige"/"Platinum") models.
>
> I have tried (details later) all of Disk Copy 6.5b13 cloning, Apple 
> Software Restore 2.2.5, Carbon Copy Cloner 2.3, all to no avail. I can 
> either not get the restore/clone from my image to actually take place, 
> or when it (allegedly) does, to get the Mac to actually boot past the 
> flashing question mark/floppy icon (searching for a bootable device, 
> that is). When are we going to get a decent, *fast* cloning solution 
> for the Mac, a la DriveImage or Ghost?!
>
>
> Here are the verbose details:
>
> o All of the hard disk drives concerned are in good shape. I have 
> individually verified this by taking them out and installing them in a 
> PC, running the manufacturer's diagnostics, even zero-filling them 
> (IDE drives; and additionally low-level formatting SCSI drives) and 
> re-verifying. The drives are *not* broken, nor do they have bad 
> sectors.
>
> o I have set up my model configuration, dual boot Mac OS 9.2.2/X 
> 10.2.8 + updates and desired software set up; it works fine, checks 
> out in Disk First Aid under 9, X, as well as DiskWarrior and Norton 
> (not implemented any Norton fixes, so Norton has looked at but not 
> "touched" the drive, and that was after I had already tried cloning 
> unsuccessfully several times). It is a single, under-8GB partition, 
> Mac OS Extended, on an IDE drive, and boots fine on the Power Mac G3 
> it has  been set up to both OSs.
>
> o I have created an image of this using Disk Copy 6.5b13, via "Create 
> Image from Device". I have then converted the image to ASR format 
> using the "Scan 9+X image for ASR" AppleScript from the Scripts menu. 
> This completed successfully, and created a 4 segment (700 MB CD-R 
> size) .dmg image, which mounts, checksums, and verifies correctly.
>
> o If I try to use ASR 2.2.5 to restore this image to an IDE disk in 
> the system (image stored on and system booted from an external SCSI 
> drive), ASR will begin, and then after about a minute, simply state 
> "restore has failed". I have tried different target hard disks and 
> several times, no go.
>
> o If I mount the model .dmg image, use Disk Copy 6.5b13 and "Clone" 
> option from the menus, I am able to clone the image fine. I then have 
> to go into Drive Setup and remove a write-protect bit that has been 
> set under the Volume Settings for the recently cloned target volume 
> (why?). I then try to reboot the system, get stuck at the flashing 
> question mark/floppy icon...no go.
>
> o After this failure, the disk can not be initialized again from Drive 
> Setup, no matter what I do. Booting to OS X, I can use Disk Utility, 
> however, to erase/zero-fill the drive and try again; or remove the 
> drive and zero-fill on the PC using the manufacturer's diagnostic 
> tools, and try again. Same results follow.
>
> o If I try to do this from Mac OS X 10.2.8, using
>
> sudo asr -source /path/to/Macintosh_asr.dmg -target 
> /Volumes/InternalDriveName -erase
>
> (substituting file names and paths as necessary, of course)
>
> at the Terminal, I am able to successfully "restore" the image. The 
> disk is mounted and visible, accessible under Mac OS X; Startup Disk 
> can be selected to the OS 9 or X system on the newly restored disk, 
> however upon reboot, again, I get the flashing question mark...no go.
>
> o If I boot from my model setup, run Disk Utility and erase/zero the 
> target drive, then run Carbon Copy Cloner 2.3 and "clone", with the 
> "make bootable" option checked, and "Bless OldWorld disk" from the 
> menu, as suggested, again, I get a clone that mounts and is readable 
> in Mac OS X. However, upon reboot, no luck getting past the flashing 
> question mark.
>
> o I cannot use Mac OS X 10.3 Disk Utility on this machine, since it is 
> a Beige G3. I *might* be able to take both model and target disks to a 
> Blue & White and try the new restore/clone functionality of 10.3 over 
> there, but something tells me there's more going on here.
>
> I am at my wits' end. Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Kerem
>
>
>
Eric Zelman
Systems Engineer
Apple
68 Mt. Hope Ave.
Providence, RI 02906

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