[LCM Articles] [BLOCKED] RE: What is wrong with you people?? One more thing...
Loai Naamani
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Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
thing...
screw you, you
ignorant-intolerant-iranian-ass-kissing-syrian-butt-hole-licking low life
If you can't handle debate and alterative view points, go buy yourself a
one-way ticket to Tehran!
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> From: shraybi at hotmail.com
> To: kingkassis at hotmail.com; leb-students at lists.stanford.edu;
lebanon-articles at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
thing...
> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:42:14 +0000
>
> Jimmy Kassis,
>
> Would you please SHUT UP ......... i can't stand this Israeili any more
>
> Sorry for the rest of you....
>
> S H
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Jimmy Kassis" <kingkassis at hotmail.com>
> To: <leb-students at lists.stanford.edu>, <lebanon-articles at mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One
> more thing...
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:28:50 -0400
>
> I respect the wishes of the moderator and I will not further comment on
this
> thread. But as the originator of this thread I will make these last 3
> points.
> Unity:
> Many people commented on unity as the reason for standing behind Hezbollah
> and focusing on Israel and what they have done in reaction to the
Hezbollah
> provocation.
> I will argue that this approach will divide us rather than unite us. We
> must start doing with is RIGHT not what is politically correct. What is
> right is to feel outraged and betrayed by what Hezbollah have instigated.
> Even Arab nations are not denying these facts.
>
> Call for Demonstration:If all we say STOP THE ISRAELI WAR ON LEBANON as
the
> slogan committee suggested, and we do not parallel this message with calls
> for a solution to Hezbollah, namely their disarmament, than we are doing a
> our country a huge disservice. How credible and how effective will we be
in
> the eyes of the world if we turn a blind eye to the elephant in the room??
>
> Negotiations:
> I am appalled by the suggestion that we should avoid war even if it means
20
> years of negotiation with Hezbollah. Do we want to spend the next 20
years
> fearful of a militia group that is accountable to no one and that has
track
> record of acting irresponsibly? What will we do next time Nassrallah
> decides to show his solidarity with our palestinian brothers and go kidnap
> and kill a few jews? Will we vote him out of office? What will we the
> next time Iran is cornered over some its nuclear issue and stirs up
trouble
> through Hezbollah? There is NO future in Lebanon, or any country, that has
a
> state within a state. This a time for us to make a stand against
> Hezballah, let's not f*** it up like we did with the presidency.
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:36:17 -0400> From: ssolomon at mit.edu> To:
> wassimh at hotmail.com> CC: leb-students at lists.stanford.edu;
> lebanon-articles at mit.edu; alwaysbekind at msn.com> Subject: Re: [LCM
Articles]
> What is wrong with you people?? One more thing...> > I am actually not
using
> exact statisctics.> > Still, you have to say that (sorry for the ta2ifiyye
> here) the huge > majority of> shiite people (35% of the Eligible voters in
> the last elections were shiite> -annhar archive-) and a significant part
of
> the Sunnis (37% of the eligible> voters in the last elections were Sunnis)
> and some of the rest of the> population (less Maronites than Roman or
other
> Christian sects) do belive that> Hizballah is our only defense against an
> enemy that we can never trust.> > This is why I said that 30-->50 % of the
> people would prefer that > hizballah keep> its weapons. (note that shiites
> have an age pyramid that is wider than > all other> sects at the bottom.
So,
> in terms of population (not voters) they are probably> more than any other
> sect in Lebanon).> > > Quoting Wassim Heneine <wassimh at hotmail.com>:> > >
I
> agree on most what you said except your statistics in the 2 paragraphs. I>
>
> might be wrong. Please provide supporting document.> >> > -----Original
> Message-----> > From: lebanon-articles-bounces at mit.edu> >
> [mailto:lebanon-articles-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Sleiman M Itani> >
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:56 PM> > To: rmekary at aol.com> > Cc:
> lebanon-articles at mit.edu; leb-students at lists.stanford.edu;> >
> alwaysbekind at msn.com> > Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you
> people?? One more> > thing...> >> > Even if everybody on this list agrees
> that Hizballah is bad, more than 30%> > (I> > would say even 50%) of the
> Lebanese people want Hizballah to keep its> > weapons> > just to be a
thorn
> in Israel's side. There is a good number of Lebanese> > people> > who see
> Israel as an enemy no matter what.> >> > Just remember that Hizballah has
> the biggest support in Lebanon (as one> > party,> > not a coalition), and
> even if we don't agree with those people, we have to> > respect their
> rights. We can't just claim that they don't exist and keep> > them> >
> unrepresented.> >> > now for what I think ( I think one of the articles
> posted here said the same> > thing): hizballah's move this time might have
> been taken as the reason for> > the> > Israeli attacks. I think that some
> time ago Israel had the green light (or> > an> > invitation) from America,
> the Arabs and some people in Lebanon. Note that> > hizballah's weapons
> haven't been a problem for Israel for some time now,> > they> > are just a
> problem for some people in Lebanon.> >> > I think that it is not only
> Hizballah's (Syria and Iran) fault, it is also> > the> > fault of the
> Americans, the Arabs (Saudi arabia, Egypt, Jordan), and> > the people> >
in
> the Lebanese government who knew that many Lebanese people will die> > but
> still> > wanted revenge against Hizballah.> >> > Plus, without killing a
> million Lebanese people, Hizballah can't be removed.> > This is true
weather
> Israel or the Lebanese army are trying to do it. If you> > don't know
that,
> then you don't know much about Lebanon. The only way> > to remove> >
> hizballah is to erode its popularity first (maybe create a shiite party> >
> that is> > anti syrian but still anti Israeli,) and I think that this is
the
> objective> > of> > the Israeli offensive.> >> > Anyways, these are just my
> thoughts.> >> > The point is that we want to eat grapes and not to kill
the
> keeper. We need> > to> > have a united front and do this from a
humanitarian
> aspect because there is> > no> > united view on the political aspect.
United
> we stand, departed we fall.> >> > Also, we have to believe in peace,
> democracy, and in the intellect of the> > Lebanese people. Even if it
takes
> 20 years of negotiations to disarm> > Hizballah,> > that is the right way
to
> do it. We have to learn to show the world unity and> > solve our problems
> between us, democratically. This is one of the main> > reasons> > for the
> success of the Israeli governments. Israel has a lot of internal> >
problems
> (including armed groups that the government can't practically> > control),
> but they don't solve them by destroying themselves.> >> > I just hope that
> this doesn't last too long. We don't need another 16 years> > of> > war.>
>>
> > Salamat> >> >> > Quoting rmekary at aol.com:> >> >> Great. Thanks Walid.>
> >> This being said, how can we take actions and spread the word and ask>
>>
> both of Hizballah and Israel to stop?> >> We shoud mainly ask Hizbalah to
go
> fight Israel in Iran and Syria and> >> to leave Lebanon alone.> >> If we
all
> agree on that, we should state this clearly all over the world.> >> We
> should literally ask Hizballh to stop fighting Israel on our> >> Lebanese
> land for an Iranian/ Syrian/ Palestinian cause.> >>> >> Do you all agree?>
> >> If yes, let's do something about it ASAP.> >>> >> Sincerely,> >>
Rania.>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: r_walid at hotmail.com> >> To:
> rmekary at aol.com; abitdodgy at hotmail.com; kingkassis at hotmail.com;> >>
> leb-students at lists.stanford.edu; lebanon-articles at mit.edu> >> Sent: Wed,
19
> Jul 2006 10:54 AM> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you
> people?? One more> > thing...> >>> >> Finally we are waking up and
> realizing the truth. We are realizing> >> that Hizbullah's ultimate goal
was
> completed long ago, we should now> >> thank them and it is now time for
them
> to let lebanon take all> >> military and other decisions for itself. I am
> sorry for all the pain> >> the Palestinians are suffering, but i don't see
> why we also need to> >> pay the price by having a militia that tickles the
> wasp's nest every> >> once in a while. We, the civilians, always end up
> being stung the> >> most by these actions.> >>> >> From:
rmekary at aol.com>
> >> To: abitdodgy at hotmail.com, kingkassis at hotmail.com,> >>
> leb-students at lists.stanford.edu, lebanon-articles at mit.edu> >> Subject: Re:
> [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more> > thing...> >>
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> >>> >> Dear all,> >>> >> I read all the comments.> >> At least we all
> agree we want Israel to stop its unhumanitarian attacks.> >> I am afraid
it
> is too late now after all the destruction.> >> But let's learn one lesson
> though: we should also ask for hizballah to> > stop> >> fighting Israel...
> The more they fight Israel, the more Lebanon is> > destroyed.> >> So why
> don't we all ask for BOTH parties to stop????> >> Why don't we ask Israel
to
> go fight Iran and Syrian on THEIR land and> >> not ours?> >> Hizballah can
> get out and fight on an Iranian land... do we really> >> want Hizballah?>
>>
> They are bringing nothing but destruction and war from Israel to Lebanon.>
> >>> >> We, Lebanese, Christinas and Muslims, shoud all ask for Hizballah
> to> >> stop their action as well....> >>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> Rania Mekary, Ph.D.> >> Harvard
> School of Public Health> >> Nutrition Department> >> 655 Huntington
Avenue,
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> 617-432-2435> >> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/researchers/rmekary.html> >>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> -----Original Message-----> >>
From:
> abitdodgy at hotmail.com> >> To: kingkassis at hotmail.com;
> leb-students at lists.stanford.edu;> >> lebanon-articles at mit.edu> >> Sent:
Wed,
> 19 Jul 2006 1:01 AM> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you
> people?? One more> > thing...> >>> >> Before this list gets moderated,
> allow me to say the following:> >> Jimmy, what a bloody pratt you are! You
> want me to call an apple an> >> apple? Well, I just did. You want to
> "applaud" Israel for killing> >> countless Lebanese civilians, destroying
> the economy and> >> infrastructure of our country under the pretence of
self
> defense,> >> then knock your self out, but know this: No one is
condoning
> the> >> actions of Hezbollah; we?re condemning the heavy handed actions
of>
> >> Israel and its collective punishment of Lebanon and its people, which>
> >> constitutes of a violation of the Geneva Convention and International>
> >> Law. Come on, let me hear you clap. The government of Israel said it>
>>
> was Syria and Iran pulling the strings, then let them go bomb Syria> >>
and
> Iran. I apologize to all recipients of this list for being out> >> of
> character, but my 85 year old mother had to evacuate right after> >> she
had
> an operation, and our dear Jimmy thinks we should applaud> >> that. My
> apologies for using derogatory language, but I wish there> >> was a polite
> way to call an idiot an idiot. Not only are you> >> senseless, dear
Jimmy,
> but you lack perspective and the analytical> >> capacity to understand
that
> the biggest loser in this conflict is> >> Lebanon and not Hezbollah. The
> idiocy of morally decrepit people who> >> see nothing wrong with the
> destruction of Lebanon and the death of> >> its civilians as long as they
> are under the illusion that Hezbollah> >> are being destroyed is mind
> boggling. Open your eyes and witness who> >> the real losers are. Good
> night! We're not expressing support> >> for Hezbollah, we are
expressing
> solidarity and support for the> >> Lebanese living through a genocide you
> have no shame in appluadng.> >> From: "Jimmy Kassis"
> <kingkassis at hotmail.com>> >> To: <leb-students at lists.stanford.edu>,
> <lebanon-articles at mit.edu>> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong
> with you people?? One more> > thing...> >> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:35:20
> -0400> >>> >> Instead of replying with emotionally charged responses, full
> of> >> personal attacks, I would appreciate if you actually come up with>
>>
> alternative ideas of disarming Hisballah, i.e. curing the deadly> >>
cancer,
> rather than giving it a Tylenol by saying STOP THE WAR!! I> >> want to
know
> what is next?? spend the next 20 years negotiating with> >> them while
they
> build up their capabilities again?> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> From:
> kingkassis at hotmail.com> >> To: philippesaad at gmail.com> >> Date: Tue, 18
Jul
> 2006 23:22:38 -0400> >> CC: leb-students at lists.stanford.edu;
> lebanon-articles at mit.edu> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong
with
> you people??> >>> >> Rania, I don?t think I am stating the obvious.
After
> reading all> >> the comments sent out, the ?obvious? is that no one seems
to
> have the> >> balls to speak out against Hezbollah for fear of being
labeled>
> >> unpatriotic. For a condemnation of Hezbollah is perceived as support>
>>
> for Israel which in itself is unpatriotic Farrah I don?t condone> >>
> Israel destroying all of Lebanon. 95% of the bombing has been> >> targeted
> to Hezbollah strongholds. Hezbollah chooses to operate from> >> within
> civilian areas. That in itself is outrageous; the people> >> supporting
> Hezbollah should not allow them to launch attacks form> >> hospital
> rooftops. We should all rise up and speak out against that.> >> Again I
> don?t condone the destruction of my own country, but I> >> understand the
> other 5% of the bombing that Israel is doing to send a> >> message to the
> Lebanese government. Elias Israel may not defeat> >> them completely but
> they will sure weaken them to the point where> >> just maybe the Lebanese
> army can dare to venture to the south and do> >> what is supposed to do
and
> patrol the border. Israeli exacting> >> revenge on the Lebanese?? Why?
For
> what? You and I both know that> >> Israel only want security on its
> northern border. They have proven> >> that when they COMPLETELY withdrew
in
> 2000. Maurice I won?t> >> disappear. Deal with it. I don?t agree with
> taking the country back> >> 20 years. But I want a solution a permanent
one.
> I am sick and tired> >> of holding Hezbollah?s hand begging them to
disarm.
> At the rate we> >> are moving with Hezbollah and Syria they would have
taken
> us back 20> >> years anyways. Philippe Before you go questioning my
> Lebanese> >> identity, my patriotism, and calling me a coward let me tell
> you> >> something about myself. My house was burned to the ground by the>
>>
> Druze in 1981; my house was then leveled to the ground by the Israeli> >>
> invasion in 1982 in the mountains. My house again destroyed in Beirut> >>
> and my mother badly injured from Syrian shelling in 1989. And some> >>
more
> destruction was piled on my house and family from the Lebanese> >> Forces
> with their war with GMA. Despite all that, I love Lebanon, I> >> love the
> people, and I believe in a united Lebanon with Christians> >> and Muslims
> living together as one people. I truly believe in that> >> vision. I don?t
> believe us as Lebanese have united enough to disarm> >> Hezbollah.
Hezbollah
> being the undisputed puppets of Syria and Iran,> >> I hold them
responsible
> for the death of some of the finest people> >> that Lebanon ever produced
> from Hariri and Tueini to the rest you> >> know the list I won?t repeat
> here. After what round of talks were you> >> expecting Hezbollah to
disarm?
> Hezbollah wanted every Arab and> >> Iranian issue resolved before they did
> anything. Is that what you> >> want? I am tired as stated of listening to
> their lame ass excuses of> >> why they need to be armed. Yes the death of
> 250 civilians is> >> horrible, but if the end result is a country free of
> militias in> >> peace with ALL its neighbors working to build a bright
> future for its> >> children, then their death is well worth it.> >>> >>
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