[LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more thing...

Wed Jul 19 11:39:11 EDT 2006

I don't think there are many people on this list that would disagree with
you, but my main question is "how are you going to convey the message?"

The Hezbollah is much more than a militia, it's now a political party and an
institution. Very importantly, as far the people in the South are concerned,
it's their only defender, it's the guy who got them back their houses,
educated their children when they were abandoned by everyone. As far as
people who have children in Israeli jails, the hezb is the only way to get
them out. (only the hezb managed a successful prisoner exchange in Recent
history)

As far as palestinians are concerned (of which there are 400,000 in Leb),
it's the only party willing to risk their lives for their cause (whether
this is true or not, the fact that they captured soldiers at the same time
as Hamas is interpreted as a show for solidarity)

Hezbollah is a lot more than just a militia, it's the only institution that
has military victories against Israel. The symbol of resistance. Hamas looks
up to Hezb and if you can look on the Jerusalem Post, there are some Hamas
militants ready to come fight with the Hezb and want to learn from the Hezb.

To a lot of people in the south, it's the only thing that keeps their
dignity (or Sharaf) and after visiting the South, I can guarantee to you
that every single person down there is ready to give their life for
Hezbollah.

I think today's events shows that the Hezb somewhat overplayed their hand
like they say, but what you are saying is going to spark an outrage with
nearly 900,000 people.
Michel

On 7/19/06, rmekary at aol.com <rmekary at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  I also think that tonight at the assembly, we should make these
> statements clear:
>
> 1- Israel has to cease .
> 2- Hizballah has to cease.
> 3- Iran and Syria need to stop supporting hizballah and ask him to fight
> Israel on our Lebanese land.
>
> I think we should make a strong statement about this.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rania.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r_walid at hotmail.com
> To: rmekary at aol.com; abitdodgy at hotmail.com; kingkassis at hotmail.com;
> leb-students at lists.stanford.edu; lebanon-articles at mit.edu
> Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
> thing...
>
>  Finally we are waking up and realizing the truth. We are realizing that
> Hizbullah's ultimate goal was completed long ago, we should now thank them
>  and it is now time for them to let lebanon take all military and other
> decisions for itself. I am sorry for all the pain the Palestinians are
> suffering, but i don't see why we also need to pay the price by having a
> militia that tickles the wasp's nest every once in a while. We, the
> civilians, always end up being stung the most by these actions.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: *rmekary at aol.com *
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>  Dear all,
>
> I read all the comments.
> At least we all agree we want Israel to stop its unhumanitarian attacks.
> I am afraid it is too late now after all the destruction.
> But let's learn one lesson though: we should also ask for hizballah to
> stop
> fighting Israel... The more they fight Israel, the more Lebanon is
> destroyed.
> So why don't we all ask for BOTH parties to stop????
> Why don't we ask Israel to go fight Iran and Syrian on THEIR land and not
> ours?
> Hizballah can get out and fight on an Iranian land... do we really want
> Hizballah?
> They are bringing nothing but destruction and war from Israel to Lebanon.
>
> We, Lebanese, Christinas and Muslims, shoud all ask for Hizballah to stop
> their action as well....
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Rania Mekary, Ph.D.
> Harvard School of Public Health
> Nutrition Department
> 655 Huntington Avenue, Building 2
> Boston, Ma 02115
> Voice mail: 617-432-6343
> Fax: 617-432-2435
> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/researchers/rmekary.html
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: abitdodgy at hotmail.com
> To: kingkassis at hotmail.com; leb-students at lists.stanford.edu;
> lebanon-articles at mit.edu
> Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 1:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
> thing...
>
>   Before this list gets moderated, allow me to say the following:
>
> Jimmy, what a bloody pratt you are! You want me to call an apple an apple?
> Well, I just did.
> You want to "applaud" Israel for killing countless Lebanese civilians,
> destroying the economy and infrastructure of our country under the pretence
> of self defense, then knock your self out, but know this:
>
> No one is condoning the actions of Hezbollah; we're condemning the heavy
> handed actions of Israel and its collective punishment of Lebanon and its
> people, which constitutes of a violation of the Geneva Convention and
> International Law. Come on, let me hear you clap. The government of Israel
> said it was Syria and Iran pulling the strings, then let them go bomb Syria
> and Iran.
>
> I apologize to all recipients of this list for being out of character, but
> my 85 year old mother had to evacuate right after she had an operation, and
> our dear Jimmy thinks we should applaud that. My apologies for using
> derogatory language, but I wish there was a polite way to call an idiot an
> idiot.
>
> Not only are you senseless, dear Jimmy, but you lack perspective and the
> analytical capacity to understand that the biggest loser in this conflict is
> Lebanon and not Hezbollah.
> The idiocy of morally decrepit people who see nothing wrong with the
> destruction of Lebanon and the death of its civilians as long as they are
> under the illusion that Hezbollah are being destroyed is mind boggling. Open
> your eyes and witness who the real losers are.
>
> Good night!
>
> We're not expressing support for Hezbollah, we are expressing solidarity
> and support for the Lebanese living through a genocide you have no shame in
> appluadng.
>
>  ------------------------------
>  From: *"Jimmy Kassis" < kingkassis at hotmail.com>*
> To: *<leb-students at lists.stanford.edu>, < lebanon-articles at mit.edu>*
> Subject: *Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
> thing...*
> Date: *Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:35:20 -0400*
>
> Instead of replying with emotionally charged responses, full of personal
> attacks, I would appreciate if you actually come up with alternative ideas
> of disarming Hisballah, i.e. curing the deadly cancer, rather than giving
> it a Tylenol by saying STOP THE WAR!!  I want to know what is next?? spend
> the next 20 years negotiating with them while they build up their
> capabilities again?
>
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> From: kingkassis at hotmail.com
> To: philippesaad at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:22:38 -0400
> CC: leb-students at lists.stanford.edu; lebanon-articles at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people??
>
>  Rania,
> I don't think I am stating the obvious.  After reading all the comments
> sent out, the "obvious" is that no one seems to have the balls to speak out
> against Hezbollah for fear of being labeled unpatriotic.  For a
> condemnation of Hezbollah is perceived as support for Israel which in itself
> is unpatriotic
>
> Farrah
> I don't condone Israel destroying all of Lebanon.   95% of the bombing has
> been targeted to Hezbollah strongholds.  Hezbollah chooses to operate from
> within civilian areas. That in itself is outrageous; the people supporting
> Hezbollah should not allow them to launch attacks form hospital rooftops.
> We should all rise up and speak out against that.  Again I don't condone
> the destruction of my own country, but I understand the other 5% of the
> bombing that Israel is doing to send a message to the Lebanese government.
>
> Elias
> Israel may not defeat them completely but they will sure weaken them to
> the point where just maybe the Lebanese army can dare to venture to the
> south and do what is supposed to do and patrol the border.
> Israeli exacting revenge on the Lebanese??   Why? For what?   You and I
> both know that Israel only want security on its northern border.  They
> have proven that when they COMPLETELY withdrew in 2000.
>
> Maurice
> I won't disappear. Deal with it.
> I don't agree with taking the country back 20 years.   But I want a
> solution a permanent one.  I am sick and tired of holding Hezbollah's hand
> begging them to disarm.  At the rate we are moving with Hezbollah and
> Syria they would have taken us back 20 years anyways.
>
>
> Philippe
> Before you go questioning my Lebanese identity, my patriotism, and calling
> me a coward let me tell you something about myself.   My house was burned
> to the ground by the Druze in 1981; my house was then leveled to the ground
> by the Israeli invasion in 1982 in the mountains.  My house again
> destroyed in Beirut and my mother badly injured from Syrian shelling in
> 1989.  And some more destruction was piled on my house and family from the
> Lebanese Forces with their war with GMA.   Despite all that, I love
> Lebanon, I love the people, and I believe in a united Lebanon with
> Christians and Muslims living together as one people. I truly believe in
> that vision.
> I don't believe us as Lebanese have united enough to disarm Hezbollah.   Hezbollah
> being the undisputed puppets of Syria and Iran, I hold them responsible for
> the death of some of the finest people that Lebanon ever produced from
> Hariri and Tueini to the rest you know the list I won't repeat here.  After
> what round of talks were you expecting Hezbollah to disarm?  Hezbollah
> wanted every Arab and Iranian issue resolved before they did anything.  Is
> that what you want? I am tired as stated of listening to their lame ass
> excuses of why they need to be armed.    Yes the death of 250 civilians is
> horrible, but if the end result is a country free of militias in peace with
> ALL its neighbors working to build a bright future for its children, then
> their death is well worth it.
>
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