I don't think there are many people on this list that would disagree with you, but my main question is "how are you going to convey the message?"<br><br>The Hezbollah is much more than a militia, it's now a political party and an institution. Very importantly, as far the people in the South are concerned, it's their only defender, it's the guy who got them back their houses, educated their children when they were abandoned by everyone. As far as people who have children in Israeli jails, the hezb is the only way to get them out. (only the hezb managed a successful prisoner exchange in Recent history)
<br><br>As far as palestinians are concerned (of which there are 400,000 in Leb), it's the only party willing to risk their lives for their cause (whether this is true or not, the fact that they captured soldiers at the same time as Hamas is interpreted as a show for solidarity)
<br><br>Hezbollah is a lot more than just a militia, it's the only institution that has military victories against Israel. The symbol of resistance. Hamas looks up to Hezb and if you can look on the Jerusalem Post, there are some Hamas militants ready to come fight with the Hezb and want to learn from the Hezb.
<br><br>To a lot of people in the south, it's the only thing that keeps their dignity (or Sharaf) and after visiting the South, I can guarantee to you that every single person down there is ready to give their life for Hezbollah.
<br><br>I think today's events shows that the Hezb somewhat overplayed their hand like they say, but what you are saying is going to spark an outrage with nearly 900,000 people. <br>Michel<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 7/19/06, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:rmekary@aol.com" title="mailto:rmekary@aol.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rmekary@aol.com</a></b> <<a href="mailto:rmekary@aol.com" title="mailto:rmekary@aol.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div> I also think that tonight at the assembly, we should make these statements clear:
<br>
<br>
1- Israel has to cease .<br>
2- Hizballah has to cease.<br>
3- Iran and Syria need to stop supporting hizballah and ask him to fight Israel on our Lebanese land.<br>
<br>
I think we should make a strong statement about this.</div><div><span><br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Rania.<br>
<br>
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<div>Finally we are waking up and realizing the truth. We
are realizing that Hizbullah's ultimate goal was completed long ago, we
should now thank them and it is now time for them to let lebanon
take all military and other decisions for itself. I am sorry for
all the pain the Palestinians are suffering, but i don't see why we
also need to pay the price by having a militia that tickles the wasp's
nest every once in a while. We, the civilians, always end up being
stung the most by these actions.</div>
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<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">Dear all,<br>
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I read all the comments. <br>
At least we all agree we want Israel to stop its unhumanitarian attacks.<br>
I am afraid it is too late now after all the destruction.<br>
But let's learn one lesson though: we should also ask for hizballah to stop <br>
fighting Israel... The more they fight Israel, the more Lebanon is destroyed.<br>
So why don't we all ask for BOTH parties to stop????<br>
Why don't we ask Israel to go fight Iran and Syrian on THEIR land and not ours?<br>
Hizballah can get out and fight on an Iranian land... do we really want Hizballah?<br>
They are bringing nothing but destruction and war from Israel to Lebanon.<br>
<br>
We, Lebanese, Christinas and Muslims, shoud all ask for Hizballah to stop their action as well....<br>
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<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">Before this list gets moderated, allow me to say the following:</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"> </font></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">Jimmy, what a bloody pratt you are! You want me to call an apple an apple? Well, I just did.</font></span>
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<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">You
want to "applaud" Israel for killing countless Lebanese civilians,
destroying the economy and infrastructure of our country under the
pretence of self defense, then knock your self out, but know this:</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"> </font></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">No
one is condoning the actions of Hezbollah; we're condemning the
heavy handed actions of Israel and its collective punishment of Lebanon
and its people, which constitutes of a violation of the Geneva
Convention and International Law. Come on, let me hear you clap. The
government of Israel said it was Syria and Iran pulling the strings,
then let them go bomb Syria and Iran.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"> </font></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">I
apologize to all recipients of this list for being out of character,
but my 85 year old mother had to evacuate right after she had an
operation, and our dear Jimmy thinks we should applaud that. My
apologies for using derogatory language, but I wish there was a
polite way to call an idiot an idiot.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"> </font></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">Not
only are you senseless, dear Jimmy, but you lack perspective and the
analytical capacity to understand that the biggest loser in this
conflict is Lebanon and not Hezbollah.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">The idiocy
of morally decrepit people who see nothing wrong with the destruction
of Lebanon and the death of its civilians as long as they are under the
illusion that Hezbollah are being destroyed is mind boggling. Open your
eyes and witness who the real losers are. </font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"> </font></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">Good night!</font></span></div>
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<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"> </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">We're
not expressing support for Hezbollah, we are expressing solidarity and
support for the Lebanese living through a genocide you have no
shame in appluadng. </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"></font> </font></div>
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Date: <i>Tue, 18 <span>Jul</span> 2006 23:35:20 -0400</i><br>
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Instead
of replying with emotionally charged responses, full of personal
attacks, I would appreciate if you actually come up with alternative
ideas of disarming H<font>isballah, i.e. curing the deadly
cancer, rather than giving it a Tylenol by saying STOP THE
WAR!! I want to know what is next?? spend the next 20 years
negotiating with them while they build up their capabilities again?</font><br>
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Date: Tue, 18 <span>Jul</span> 2006 23:22:38 -0400<br>
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<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Rania,</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I don't think I am stating the obvious.<span> </span>
After
reading all the comments sent out, the "obvious" is that no one seems
to have the balls to speak out against Hezbollah for fear of being
labeled unpatriotic.<span> </span>For a condemnation of Hezbollah is perceived as support for Israel which in itself is unpatriotic</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font></font> </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font size="3">Farrah</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I don't condone Israel destroying all of Lebanon.<span>
</span>95% of the bombing has been targeted to Hezbollah strongholds.<span> </span>Hezbollah
chooses to operate from within civilian areas. That in itself is
outrageous; the people supporting Hezbollah should not allow them to
launch attacks form hospital rooftops.<span> </span>We should all rise up and speak out against that.<span> </span>Again
I don't condone the destruction of my own country, but I understand the
other 5% of the bombing that Israel is doing to send a message to the
Lebanese government.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font></font> </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Elias</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Israel
may not defeat them completely but they will sure weaken them to the
point where just maybe the Lebanese army can dare to venture to the
south and do what is supposed to do and patrol the border.</font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Israeli exacting revenge on the Lebanese?? <span>
</span>Why? For what? <span> </span>You and I both know that Israel only want security on its northern border.<span> </span>They have proven that when they COMPLETELY withdrew in 2000.<span> </span></font></font></font>
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<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font></font> </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Maurice</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I won't disappear. Deal with it.</font></font></font>
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<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I don't agree with taking the country back 20 years.
<span> </span>But I want a solution a permanent one.<span> </span>I am sick and tired of holding Hezbollah's hand begging them to disarm.<span> </span>At the rate we are moving with Hezbollah and Syria they would have taken us back 20 years anyways.
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<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font></font> </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Philippe</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Before you go questioning my Lebanese identity, my patriotism, and calling me a coward let me tell you something about myself.
<span> </span>My
house was burned to the ground by the Druze in 1981; my house was then
leveled to the ground by the Israeli invasion in 1982 in the mountains.<span> </span>My house again destroyed in Beirut and my mother badly injured from Syrian shelling in 1989.<span> </span>And some more destruction was piled on my house and family from the Lebanese Forces with their war with GMA.
<span> </span>Despite
all that, I love Lebanon, I love the people, and I believe in a united
Lebanon with Christians and Muslims living together as one people. I
truly believe in that vision.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I don't believe us as Lebanese have united enough to disarm Hezbollah.
<span> </span>Hezbollah
being the undisputed puppets of Syria and Iran, I hold them responsible
for the death of some of the finest people that Lebanon ever produced
from Hariri and Tueini to the rest you know the list I won't repeat
here.<span> </span>After what round of talks were you expecting Hezbollah to disarm?<span> </span>Hezbollah wanted every Arab and Iranian issue resolved before they did anything.<span> </span>Is that what you want? I am tired as stated of listening to their lame ass excuses of why they need to be armed.
<span> </span>Yes the death of 250 civilians is horrible, but if the end result is a country free of militias in peace with ALL
its neighbors working to build a bright future for its children, then their death is well worth it.</font></font></font></div>
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