[LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more thing...

Wed Jul 19 11:16:17 EDT 2006

Dear Rima, 

I am not sure you can make a survey about what Lebanese think by sending to
lists at mit.edu.....

The questions you are raising are very essential (what we should say to
hizballa or ask hizballaa to leave Lebanon and Lebanese alone.

I think what would be good for now is to :

1- ASK for immediate unconditioned ceasefire (mainly Israel as Hezballa
agrees to a ceasefire) and Condemn the aggressions on Lebanon.

2- Support the Lebanese government in its effort to extend its authority on
all its territory

3 - Ask the international community to help / support the authority in
Lebanon to be the only master in Lebanon and no one other party.

Once we're get this, other issues will be resolved. 

Once we out of this war, we will have to talk among Lebanese. But for now.
time to be UNITED to defend our country

Regards,

WH

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Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
thing...

 Great.  Thanks Walid.
This being said, how can we take actions and spread the word and ask both of
Hizballah and Israel to stop?
We shoud mainly ask Hizbalah to go fight Israel in Iran and Syria and to
leave Lebanon alone.
If we all agree on that, we should state this clearly all over the world.
We should literally ask Hizballh to stop fighting Israel on our Lebanese
land for an Iranian/ Syrian/ Palestinian cause.

Do you all agree?
If yes, let's do something about it ASAP.

Sincerely,
Rania.

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Finally we are waking up and realizing the truth. We are realizing that
Hizbullah's ultimate goal was completed long ago, we should now thank them
and it is now time for them to let lebanon take all military and other
decisions for itself. I am sorry for all the pain the Palestinians are
suffering, but i don't see why we also need to pay the price by having a
militia that tickles the wasp's nest every once in a while. We, the
civilians, always end up being stung the most by these actions.

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Dear all,

I read all the comments.  
At least we all agree we want Israel to stop its unhumanitarian attacks.
I am afraid it is too late now after all the destruction.
But let's learn one lesson though: we should also ask for hizballah to stop 
fighting Israel... The more they fight Israel, the more Lebanon is
destroyed.
So why don't we all ask for BOTH parties to stop????
Why don't we ask Israel to go fight Iran and Syrian on THEIR land and not
ours?
Hizballah can get out and fight on an Iranian land... do we really want
Hizballah?
They are bringing nothing but destruction and war from Israel to Lebanon.

We, Lebanese, Christinas and Muslims, shoud all ask for Hizballah to stop
their action as well....

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Rania Mekary, Ph.D.
Harvard School of Public Health
Nutrition Department
655 Huntington Avenue, Building 2
Boston, Ma 02115
Voice mail: 617-432-6343 
Fax: 617-432-2435
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/researchers/rmekary.html
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Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
thing...

Before this list gets moderated, allow me to say the following:

Jimmy, what a bloody pratt you are! You want me to call an apple an apple?
Well, I just did.

You want to "applaud" Israel for killing countless Lebanese civilians,
destroying the economy and infrastructure of our country under the pretence
of self defense, then knock your self out, but know this:

No one is condoning the actions of Hezbollah; we're condemning the heavy
handed actions of Israel and its collective punishment of Lebanon and its
people, which constitutes of a violation of the Geneva Convention and
International Law. Come on, let me hear you clap. The government of Israel
said it was Syria and Iran pulling the strings, then let them go bomb Syria
and Iran.

I apologize to all recipients of this list for being out of character, but
my 85 year old mother had to evacuate right after she had an operation, and
our dear Jimmy thinks we should applaud that. My apologies for using
derogatory language, but I wish there was a polite way to call an idiot an
idiot.

Not only are you senseless, dear Jimmy, but you lack perspective and the
analytical capacity to understand that the biggest loser in this conflict is
Lebanon and not Hezbollah.

The idiocy of morally decrepit people who see nothing wrong with the
destruction of Lebanon and the death of its civilians as long as they are
under the illusion that Hezbollah are being destroyed is mind boggling. Open
your eyes and witness who the real losers are. 

Good night!

We're not expressing support for Hezbollah, we are expressing solidarity and
support for the Lebanese living through a genocide you have no shame in
appluadng. 

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From: "Jimmy Kassis" <kingkassis at hotmail.com>
To: <leb-students at lists.stanford.edu>, <lebanon-articles at mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more
thing...
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:35:20 -0400

Instead of replying with emotionally charged responses, full of personal
attacks, I would appreciate if you actually come up with alternative ideas
of disarming Hisballah, i.e. curing the deadly cancer, rather than giving it
a Tylenol by saying STOP THE WAR!!  I want to know what is next?? spend the
next 20 years negotiating with them while they build up their capabilities
again?

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From: kingkassis at hotmail.com
To: philippesaad at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:22:38 -0400
CC: leb-students at lists.stanford.edu; lebanon-articles at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people??

Rania,

I don't think I am stating the obvious.  After reading all the comments sent
out, the "obvious" is that no one seems to have the balls to speak out
against Hezbollah for fear of being labeled unpatriotic.  For a condemnation
of Hezbollah is perceived as support for Israel which in itself is
unpatriotic

Farrah

I don't condone Israel destroying all of Lebanon.  95% of the bombing has
been targeted to Hezbollah strongholds.  Hezbollah chooses to operate from
within civilian areas. That in itself is outrageous; the people supporting
Hezbollah should not allow them to launch attacks form hospital rooftops.
We should all rise up and speak out against that.  Again I don't condone the
destruction of my own country, but I understand the other 5% of the bombing
that Israel is doing to send a message to the Lebanese government.

Elias

Israel may not defeat them completely but they will sure weaken them to the
point where just maybe the Lebanese army can dare to venture to the south
and do what is supposed to do and patrol the border.

Israeli exacting revenge on the Lebanese??   Why? For what?   You and I both
know that Israel only want security on its northern border.  They have
proven that when they COMPLETELY withdrew in 2000.  

Maurice

I won't disappear. Deal with it.

I don't agree with taking the country back 20 years.  But I want a solution
a permanent one.  I am sick and tired of holding Hezbollah's hand begging
them to disarm.  At the rate we are moving with Hezbollah and Syria they
would have taken us back 20 years anyways.

Philippe

Before you go questioning my Lebanese identity, my patriotism, and calling
me a coward let me tell you something about myself.  My house was burned to
the ground by the Druze in 1981; my house was then leveled to the ground by
the Israeli invasion in 1982 in the mountains.  My house again destroyed in
Beirut and my mother badly injured from Syrian shelling in 1989.  And some
more destruction was piled on my house and family from the Lebanese Forces
with their war with GMA.  Despite all that, I love Lebanon, I love the
people, and I believe in a united Lebanon with Christians and Muslims living
together as one people. I truly believe in that vision.

I don't believe us as Lebanese have united enough to disarm Hezbollah.
Hezbollah being the undisputed puppets of Syria and Iran, I hold them
responsible for the death of some of the finest people that Lebanon ever
produced from Hariri and Tueini to the rest you know the list I won't repeat
here.  After what round of talks were you expecting Hezbollah to disarm?
Hezbollah wanted every Arab and Iranian issue resolved before they did
anything.  Is that what you want? I am tired as stated of listening to their
lame ass excuses of why they need to be armed.   Yes the death of 250
civilians is horrible, but if the end result is a country free of militias
in peace with ALL its neighbors working to build a bright future for its
children, then their death is well worth it.

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