need project review

Will Fiveash William.Fiveash at
Mon Apr 7 14:49:44 EDT 2008

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:28:00AM -0400, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote:
> --On Friday, April 04, 2008 03:18:57 PM -0500 Nicolas Williams 
> <Nicolas.Williams at> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 03:00:41PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
>>> IMO we should deprecate stash files altogether.  That should make this
>>> issue go away -- what's the point of having a stash file if nothing will
>>> read it?
>> I should clarify.  I think that the only thing that reads stash files
>> should be the tool that migrates them to keytab file entries.  That
>> could be built-in to krb5kdc and kadmind, or it could be a standalone
>> tool.  Either way the stash file should be read once, migrated, and
>> removed or ignored thereafter.
> If you do that, then a tool to convert back becomes essential, instead of 
> just useful.  It should not ever be the case that merely running a new KDC 
> or kadmind results in my stash file or database being automatically 
> converted to a format that will not work with the version I was running a 
> few minutes ago and might need to revert to.

Again, my design does not do this.

> Personally, I'm very wary of gratuitous automatic conversion.  It would be 
> fine to convert to the new format when a feature is used that makes it 
> necessary, but doing it just because the new code ran is asking for 
> trouble.

I share your concern.

Will Fiveash
Sun Microsystems Inc.

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