mod_auth_kerb and kerberos

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at samba.org
Thu Sep 8 18:10:22 EDT 2005


On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 15:05 -0700, Henry B. Hotz wrote:
> On Sep 8, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 09:40 -0700, Henry B. Hotz wrote:
> >> Well, personally, I don't like having code that keeps your permanent
> >> password on file, which is what I understand NTLMx requires.  OTOH I
> >> like having better compatibility.
> >>
> >> Is this functional if you don't have an LDAP back-end on Heimdal?   
> >> I.e.
> >> don't you need some different key information than a standard kdc  
> >> uses?
> >
> > mod_ntlm_winbind talks to ntlm_auth (a samba component), which  
> > typically
> > talks to a windows-compatible domain controller of some kind.  The
> > passwords are handled at the DC, not at the webserver.  Indeed, the DC
> > requires keeping the NT password hash, but as it's usually doing so
> > anyway, that isn't an extra risk.
> 
> Excuse the drift off-topic, but my ignorance is showing:
> 
> Is the "NT password hash" the same as the rc4-hmac Kerberos Key type?

Yes (a feature I exploit, and Microsoft deliberately created).

Andrew Bartlett

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Andrew Bartlett                                http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Samba Developer, SuSE Labs, Novell Inc.        http://suse.de
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
Student Network Administrator, Hawker College  http://hawkerc.net
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