[Dspace-general] Ability to replace existing items

Wed Jan 26 08:41:42 EST 2005

Wouldn't a good compromise be to have some versioning info with objects
that would indicate that this is a more recent version of an original
and possibly some info on when it was checked in, etc.

We have the need for this with LO's

John

On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 00:54 -0500, MacKenzie Smith wrote:
> As is so often the case, this is *not* a technical issue... DSpace is quite 
> capable of supporting file replacements
> via several means, include direct sql calls to the database (as we've had 
> to do on occaision to clean up messes).
> Rather this is a local *policy* issue, and it has several important 
> consequences.... for one thing the associated
> metadata can get messed up (e.g. the checksums and other technical 
> properties of the file) if they aren't also
> regenerated when the replacement is deposited.
> 
> The other *major* problem with allowing replacements is the whole long-term 
> persistence and preservation
> commitment that some of us are making to our community... if someone 
> submits a paper to DSpace and it
> gets a Handle, then someone else cites that paper in DSpace using that 
> Handle, then the author decides to
> submit a different version of his paper and *replaces* the original, the 
> citer is out of luck -- the new version
> might invalidate her conclusions in the citing document and *no one will 
> ever know that the cited work is not
> the original one that she read*. In other words, you're toying with the 
> scholarly record. When faculty have asked
> us to change our no replacement policy and we've talked them through this 
> example they often concur that it
> would be better to keep all versions.
> 
> However, I can see that while published papers probably shouldn't be 
> replaced willy nilly, since they're part
> of the permanent scholarly record, a learning object or other item that is 
> more ephemeral in nature might not
> require such strict policies. Up to you...
> 
> MacKenzie
> 
> 
> At 12:34 PM 1/25/2005 -0500, Sam Kalb wrote:
> >I agree that this capability is a significant need.  Not only for learning 
> >objects but for other types of documents.
> >Sam
> >
> >>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:12:23 -0500
> >>From: "Petsche, Kevin F" <kpetsche at iupui.edu>
> >>To: <dspace-general at mit.edu>
> >>Subject: [Dspace-general] Ability to replace existing items
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> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>=20
> >>
> >>I was just reading through Beatrix's post and MacKenzie's reply about
> >>replacing an already submitted item (and thus maintaining its handle).
> >>Am I to conclude that the only way to do this, then, is through the
> >>import process? =20
> >>
> >>=20
> >>
> >>This is a significant need, I believe, if DSpace is to become a
> >>functioning repository for reusable learning objects RLO's).  We're
> >>getting ready to engage a few communities here about this, but it seems
> >>that these RLO's are too dynamic (i.e. they're constantly being updated
> >>by their creators) to expect communities to go through the full
> >>submission process each time they make an update.  =20
> >>
> >>=20
> >>
> >>Also, where is there documentation about the import process? =20
> >>
> >>=20
> >>
> >>Thanks,=20
> >>
> >>=20
> >>
> >>Kevin Petsche
> >>
> >>Electronic Journals Collection Manager
> >>
> >>IUPUI University Library
> >>
> >>UL1115K
> >>
> >>755 W. Michigan Street
> >>
> >>Indianapolis, IN  46202-5196
> >>
> >>317.278.2330 (Office)
> >>
> >>317.278.0368 (Fax)
> >>
> >>=20
> >>
> >>< mailto:kpetsche at iupui.edu> kpetsche at iupui.edu
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> >>=20
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> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I was just reading through Beatrix's post and = MacKenzie's reply about 
> >>replacing an already submitted item (and thus maintaining = its 
> >>handle).  Am I to conclude that the only way to do this, then, is = 
> >>through the import process?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>This is a significant need, I believe, if DSpace is = to become a 
> >>functioning repository for reusable learning objects = RLO's).  We're 
> >>getting ready to engage a few communities here about this, but it seems = 
> >>that these RLO's are too dynamic (i.e. they're constantly being = updated 
> >>by their creators) to expect communities to go through the full = 
> >>submission process each time they make an update.  =
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Also, where is there documentation about the import process?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Kevin = Petsche
> >>
> >>Electronic Journals Collection = Manager
> >>
> >>IUPUI<= /st1:place> University = Library
> >>
> >>UL1115K
> >>=
> >>
> >>755 W. Michigan = Street
> >>
> >>Indianapolis, IN  = 46202-5196
> >>
> >>317.278.2330 = (Office)
> >>
> >>317.278.0368 = (Fax)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>kpetsche at iupui.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
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