[Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google

[Eloy Rodrigues]

Hi Everyone,

I share Simon's opinion.


Eloy Rodrigues
Universidade do Minho - Serviços de Documentação
Campus de Gualtar, 4710-057 Braga
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Campus de Azurém, 4800-058 Guimarães
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bevan, Simon [mailto:S.Bevan at Cranfield.ac.uk] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 13 de Janeiro de 2005 20:43
To: MacKenzie Smith; dspace-google-pilot at MIT.EDU
Cc: dspace-general at MIT.EDU
Subject: RE: [Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google

Hi MacKenzie, and everyone,

I'd agree that Google Scholar is the natural successor to our
Google/DSpace thing and so there seems little point in continuing with a
service limited to 17 sites. 

I'd like to know whether Google learned any lessons from our pilot and
whether those lessons actually fed into the development of Scholar. If
the answer were yes, then this would give all of us a little kudos
(assuming you think Scholar a 'good thing').

It would be interesting to have the ability to limit Google Scholar
searches
to institutional repositories although I'm not sure how 'useful' this
would be.

I'll be happier when the Scholar bot gets around to indexing our DSpace
stuff!

Simon

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Simon J. Bevan
Information Systems Manager
Cranfield University


-----Original Message-----
From: MacKenzie Smith [mailto:kenzie at MIT.EDU] 
Sent: 13 January 2005 16:30
To: Scott Yeadon; dspace-google-pilot at mit.edu
Cc: dspace-general at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google

Hi Scott,

I apologize, with all the hoopla over Google Scholar I'd sort of
forgotten 
about our little experiment with Google...
if I haven't already said this out loud, let me know say that I think we

should collectively bail on the DSpace Google
experiment -- Google Scholar is far more useful and includes all of our 
content anyway (or will eventually as they
keep crawling).

For the present time, limiting search result to a small subset of DSpace

sites (17 out of more than 70) is pretty useless for users.
If we decided to continue with the DSpace Google thing then at that very

least we'd need to include all the DSpace repositories
so that we get closer to the 80,000+ items of content that are out
there.

But as I say, Google Scholar looks to be the far more useful service
down 
the road. The only change I've asked them for
that would make a big difference is some way to easily distinguish open 
access from commercial results.

What do others think? Time to pull the plug on DSpace Google?

MacKenzie

At 03:20 PM 1/13/2005 +1100, Scott Yeadon wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In reference to the following article, we've had queries regarding the 
>future of the DSpace Google in relation to Google scholar (e.g. 
>convergence, DSpace/specific repository search as a possible filter, 
>separate services, etc) Has anyone any thoughts or info on this
>http://chronicle.com/free/2004/11/2004111901n.htm?
>
>I'd be grateful for any detail on the nature of the relationship (if
any) 
>between the two projects, whether that relationship continues and
whether 
>the DSpace initiative will proceed independently of Google Scholar.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Scott.
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