[OWW-SC] fyi: wysiwywiki...

[Reshma Shetty]

The FCKEditor still seems quite buggy to me.  In just playing around
with it for a few minutes, I found

1) It is incompatible with the recent edit tools extension that places
commonly used characters below the edit window.  (Not a major issue.)

2) Formulas didn't seem to work.  See
http://www.openwetware.org/fck/index.php/Sandbox

3) It seems to be incompatible with Biblio?

So I'd be nervous about deploying this site-wide by default without
having a handful of steering committee members test it first.  I think
we'd also need to be prepared to invest significant development time
into it to fix bugs.

-Reshma


On Nov 15, 2007 11:02 AM, Bill Flanagan <wjf42 at mit.edu> wrote:
> There is a current FCKEditor 'autosave' plugin available. This plugin
> sends the entire frame back to the server on a periodic basis. The
> server application must take responsibility for then updating a
> 'persistent cache' with the content.
>
> I'll track it down and load it to see how it works. It's not clear how
> well it works with the MediaWiki support. I'll submit a request on the
> development wiki site to see what they have to say about it.
>
> Talk about killing 2 birds with one stone...
>
> I'll let you know what I hear.
>
> B.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 10:50 AM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> >     I agree this is great. And there is a preference option under
> >     editing to turn on/off the rich text editing and the rich editor
> >     tab for using it in some namespaces. I see no reason not to turn
> >     it on by default immediately and let whoever wants to disable it
> >     manually do so. Only by making it the default will we be able to
> >     find and iron out all the bugs with it.
> >
> >     Also, I think the one remaining absolutely critical feature for an
> >     editor is auto-save. This would probably be a separate extension
> >     but I would like to see something like the following:
> >     When the page is closed without saving (I think javascript can
> >     detect page close as some websites pop up bunch of things on page
> >     close), the edited text should automatically be sent to the server
> >     via an ajax request and stored in a separate table. Upon the next
> >     time I try to edit the same page if an unsaved edit is there, it
> >     should either ask me what I want to do or bring up a box with my
> >     previous edits so I can choose whether I want to restore it.
> >
> >
> > > You can switch back and forth between the two formats. Also, you can
> > > tag pages or individual sections/namespaces to use this as the default
> > > editor. Although not done yet, you could also allow it to be set as a
> > > user preference.
> > >
> > > On Nov 14, 2007 6:30 PM, Jenny Nguyen <jennytnguyen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> That so sooooo cooool!!! I love this! Although I do admit, after typing in
> > >> wiki-code for so long, converting to a completely wysiwyg format is a little
> > >> difficult. It does make the wikicode look strangely formatted too, but I'm
> > >> sure these type of bugs can be tweeked.
> > >>
> > >> Niiiice work Bill. That is really neat.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 14, 2007 5:20 PM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I've installed a copy of OpenWetWare's data onto a preliminary version
> > >> > of the FCKEdit OpenSource development team's HTML editor/Wikitext
> > >> > editor.
> > >> >
> > >> > This work is NOT a sanctioned activity by the MediaWiki team. The
> > >> > project is run by the FCKEdit folks.
> > >> >
> > >> > Their original integration was not good. With little to no support
> > >> > from the MediaWiki developers, they've already created a great set of
> > >> > features.
> > >> >
> > >> > Here's a pointer to OWW running with FCKEdit:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.openwetware.org/fck
> > >> >
> > >> > It looks pretty useful. But there are a slew of problems with it that
> > >> > need to be fixed. Even with this caveat, this is as close to a bona
> > >> > fide WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki as anyone has done to date.
> > >> >
> > >> > This site is a separate database. Any changes made to it will be held
> > >> > in this and not the main database.
> > >> >
> > >> > The HTML table editor built into it is very good. Images are a bit
> > >> > complicated at this point.
> >
> > --
> > Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>          (617)253-5899
> >
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