From awillis at MIT.EDU Mon Feb 5 13:47:16 2007 From: awillis at MIT.EDU (Albert Willis) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Wocky] Adium 1.0 released Message-ID: Adium for Mac OS X has gone 1.0. Details at at http://www.adiumx.com/blog/2007/02/adium-10.php -- Al ______________________________ Albert Willis Macintosh Platform Coordinator - Software Release Team Client Support Services Information Services and Technology Massachusetts Institute of Technology awillis at mit.edu From iggy at MIT.EDU Tue Feb 27 11:40:33 2007 From: iggy at MIT.EDU (Alicia Hunt) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:40:33 -0500 Subject: [Wocky] 2 instances of Jabber, with Adium Message-ID: Hi, If I accidently leave myself logged into Adium at home (running Jabber, AIM, Yahoo and Gmail IM) , and then log into Jabber at work (running the same 4 protocols), Jabber cannot handle it, and starts logging me in and out repeatedly, annoying my Jabber contacts. In the same situation: AIM - tells me that I'm logged in twice, and do I want to log the other instance off Yahoo IM - logs the other instance off, and notifies that instance that I've logged on elsewhere Gmail IM - I don't know what it does I am running Adium 1.0.1 (I believe on both machines). At work (the 2nd login) I'm running MacOS X 10.3.9 on a Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4. At home I'm running an Intel Mac laptop with I think 10.4, or whatever is latest. Is there a setting I can change? Or is this a Jabber bug that needs to be fixed? thanks, Alicia -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alicia L Hunt iggy at mit.edu Assistant Director for Graduate Housing (617) 253-0191 Division of Student Life, MIT E19-429C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ghudson at MIT.EDU Tue Feb 27 12:08:23 2007 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:08:23 -0500 Subject: [Wocky] 2 instances of Jabber, with Adium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1172596103.3706.155.camel@error-messages.mit.edu> I believe this is an Adium bug, though I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed yet. It shouldn't be automatically reconnecting when you get logged out due to a resource conflict. It's easy to work around. Pull up your account info for your Jabber account and look for a field named "Resource". (I don't know exactly what the dialog looks like; you may have to select advanced options.) Change the resource on your home machine so that it doesn't match what it says on your work machine. Then you should be able to log in from both places at once with no conflict. On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:40 -0500, Alicia Hunt wrote: > Hi, > > If I accidently leave myself logged into Adium at home (running > Jabber, AIM, Yahoo and Gmail IM) , and then log into Jabber at work > (running the same 4 protocols), Jabber cannot handle it, and > starts logging me in and out repeatedly, annoying my Jabber > contacts. > > In the same situation: > AIM - tells me that I'm logged in twice, and do I want to log the > other instance off > Yahoo IM - logs the other instance off, and notifies that instance > that I've logged on elsewhere > Gmail IM - I don't know what it does > > I am running Adium 1.0.1 (I believe on both machines). At work (the > 2nd login) I'm running MacOS X 10.3.9 on a Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4. > At home I'm running an Intel Mac laptop with I think 10.4, or > whatever is latest. > > Is there a setting I can change? Or is this a Jabber bug that needs > to be fixed? > > thanks, > Alicia From raeburn at MIT.EDU Tue Feb 27 12:08:41 2007 From: raeburn at MIT.EDU (Ken Raeburn) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:08:41 -0500 Subject: [Wocky] 2 instances of Jabber, with Adium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C5E8ED3-8194-41F7-8C8A-8FBA75C787FF@mit.edu> On Feb 27, 2007, at 11:40, Alicia Hunt wrote: > If I accidently leave myself logged into Adium at home (running > Jabber, AIM, Yahoo and Gmail IM) , and then log into Jabber at work > (running the same 4 protocols), Jabber cannot handle it, and > starts logging me in and out repeatedly, annoying my Jabber > contacts. In the "Accounts" preference pane, if you double-click on one of the Jabber accounts, you can configure a bunch of stuff for the connection used for that account. Under "Options", the default value for "Resource" is "Adium". As I understand it, only one connection at a time can use a given resource name, but if you change the resource name (maybe "work" and "home", if you feel like revealing that information, or "Adium1" and "Adium2") you can have multiple connections active at the same time. There's been some discussion in the past about which client will get messages when you have multiple connections. The priority value of the connection can determine this, and Adium lets you select priority values to use when you're "available" versus "away", though I don't know what the default value is (for Adium, or if Jabber has a standard default priority value... anyone?). So if Adium marks you as "away" if you're idle for a while, like if you've gone to work while leaving yourself logged in at home, and you've set the "available" and "away" priorities properly, you shouldn't have to worry about missing any messages while you're using one of your computers; if you're "away" from both, though, messages could wind up not going to the computer you next sit down at. I understand that most Jabber servers will only send to one client if they all have the same priority, but that we could patch our server to send to all of them; I don't know if that's been done. > Gmail IM - I don't know what it does I think Google's system is based on Jabber, so it should probably do the same. Ken From ghudson at MIT.EDU Tue Feb 27 12:18:58 2007 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:18:58 -0500 Subject: [Wocky] 2 instances of Jabber, with Adium In-Reply-To: <1C5E8ED3-8194-41F7-8C8A-8FBA75C787FF@mit.edu> References: <1C5E8ED3-8194-41F7-8C8A-8FBA75C787FF@mit.edu> Message-ID: <1172596738.3706.163.camel@error-messages.mit.edu> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 12:08 -0500, Ken Raeburn wrote: > There's been some discussion in the past about which client will get > messages when you have multiple connections. The priority value of > the connection can determine this, and Adium lets you select priority > values to use when you're "available" versus "away", though I don't > know what the default value is (for Adium, or if Jabber has a > standard default priority value... anyone?). So if Adium marks you > as "away" if you're idle for a while, like if you've gone to work > while leaving yourself logged in at home, and you've set the > "available" and "away" priorities properly, you shouldn't have to > worry about missing any messages while you're using one of your > computers; if you're "away" from both, though, messages could wind up > not going to the computer you next sit down at. The default priority for just about any Jabber client is 0. So the normal case is that all clients have the same priority. In this case, the server will generally send messages to the client which logged in most recently. (I did prepare a patch to make messages get sent to all highest-priority clients in this case, but it was never deployed. I may try again with that when we switch to Wildfire.) Regardless of how the server handles that situation, if you were in the middle of a conversation with someone at home, and your conversation partner still has a window open from that conversation, messages typed into that window will be sent to your "full jid" (with resource), forcing them to go to your home client. This practice keeps conversations in one place, but is decidedly inconvenient when it causes you to miss messages. Moral: close Jabber conversation windows after long gaps in the conversation, just in case the person you're talking to has switched clients.