From hallisey at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 3 11:01:16 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:01:16 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Meeting on Tuesday, Oct. 4 at 3:00 Message-ID: Hello, I would like to catch up on progress tomorrow after the SDIT meeting. I have reserved W92-199 from 3:00 - 4:00. See you there. Thanks, Joanne -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From ghudson at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 3 12:20:22 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:20:22 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Documentation Update In-Reply-To: <20050929085821.15xpi7hh0rkg0kgk@webmail.mit.edu> References: <20050929085821.15xpi7hh0rkg0kgk@webmail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1128356422.3370.26.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> This looks great. I have a few small corrections. On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 08:58 -0400, Heather Anne Harrison wrote: > Gaim 1.5.0 for Linux > http://itinfo.mit.edu/product.php?vid=690 Although we recommend gaim 1.5.0 if you're downloading it from the gaim site, RHEL 4 seems to have a patched version of 1.3.1, so the page name should maybe just be "Gaim for Linux". Under "How To Obtain", "Firefox" should be "Gaim". Under "Installing", "s ystem" should be "system". > Q: How do I install Gaim on my Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 > machine? > http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7915 7917 appears to be the same answer, such that http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?name=Gaim yields two identical results. From atticus at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 3 17:51:22 2005 From: atticus at MIT.EDU (Atticus O Gifford) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:51:22 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Status update of Jabber client installers Message-ID: <20051003175122.hvhlqcws49skg48g@webmail.mit.edu> This is a brief status update and request for input on the Mac/Windows Jabber client installers in time for the wocky meeting tomorrow: Windows: I've created an app-only MSI of the Gaim 1.5.0 package. It probably still needs a little polish here or there, but should be more or less complete. The installer currently bundles the GTK+ EXE installer which handles its own installs and upgrades silently. After installation, it appears as a separate application in the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel just like the original Gaim 1.5.0 installer. I have captured the files from the GTK+ installer, and have the installer source from SourceForge so it would be possible to replicate that portion as an MSI if necessary. My personal preference is to stick with the embedded EXE GTK+ installer, but I'm willing to do the work if there is a strong preference for an MSI. I'm not sure how well other apps that embed the EXE installer would play with our MSI install, however. As for the MIT settings: The way we've started writing installers for SWRT is to have an EXE-style config app that handles creation/configuration of per-user preferences. This usually gets run at the end of the installation for the current user, and we create a shortcut to the tool in the Start Menu->Programs->AppName folder for additional users on the same machine (similarly to how Eudora works). Assuming this approach is okay, I still need to actually write the tool for Gaim. For users who have never run Gaim, it is a simple matter of getting their username and performing a text-substitution on a clean set of preference files. If they have ever launch Gaim, however, the installer tools I have here will not allow for straightforward editing of XML files (the config file format). I would have to create an XML transform presumably which will take a little while longer. I can whip up the clean-install-only version in a very short time if that would be helpful for testing. If the installer isn't very useful until it has settings-upgrade functionality, then that will probably take a few more days at least. I'm happy to approach the next step whichever way is most useful. I've put the core MSI up in the SWRT locker if you want to take a look. Let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback and let me know how you'd like me to handle the settings: The Mac installer doesn't necessarily need repackaging, and is largely waiting for me to write a similar tool/script to add an account entry in the accounts .plist file. I could write a VISE or .pkg installer that will install Adium to the /Applications folder and run the configuration script. Alternately, I can just put it on a disk image with a standalone tool. If anyone has a preference on that, please feel free to let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Atticus From hallisey at MIT.EDU Thu Oct 6 15:31:44 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:31:44 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Documentation Update Message-ID: Meeting Notes: Jabber - October 4, 2005 Heather Anne has done a lot of work on the documentation and web pages. The following docs are ready for review. Let Heather Anne know if you have any comments/corrections and she can make updates. Jabber Service Page http://web.mit.edu/ist/services/messaging/jabber.html Jabber Stock Answer Branch (we need to look into getting a better location for this) http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7916 Gaim 1.5.0 for Linux http://itinfo.mit.edu/product.php?vid=690 Q: How do I configure Adium X to access the MIT Jabber server? http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7922 Q: How do I configure Gaim to access MIT's Jabber server? http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7918 Q: How do I install Gaim on my Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 machine? http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7915 The pages can be published once we determine how they should be listed e.g. Recommended - Limited Support etc.. Heather Anne will look at the options. Greg looked at work that Atticus did. If we make our own MSI installer from scratch, it will be difficult to avoid clashes with other software packages. First pass, go with embedded exe. Will this cause problems in the Win domain....need to test to see how it will react. Pretty good backwards compatibility for GTK. Progress: JabberD have released SASL support. Once we have a way of upgrading the server source and can upgrade and deploy, we can try this. Do we want to set up a test server to test the patches? Ask if Mark would be OK with this and if we can then get the source code to Greg....need to check on the status of where this is. Qing checked in the straight GAIM "stuff". But cannot test until the server is set up. Parking lot issue: failover support _______________________________________________ Wocky mailing list Wocky at mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/wocky -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From awillis at MIT.EDU Fri Oct 7 15:42:33 2005 From: awillis at MIT.EDU (Albert Willis) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:42:33 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Jabber on Mac OS X 10.4 Message-ID: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> In my testing of the next version of Mac OS X 10.4, iChat still complains that the password goes over insecurely when connecting to the MIT Jabber server; my understanding is that our Jabber server doesn't allow for that. I'd like to file a bug with Apple; to do that, I'd need some basic information, such as what Jabber server software we're running and any configuration information that may be useful. 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URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/wocky/attachments/20051007/93afc250/attachment.htm From ghudson at MIT.EDU Sat Oct 8 03:45:24 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 03:45:24 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Jabber on Mac OS X 10.4 In-Reply-To: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> References: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> Message-ID: <1128757524.3370.186.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 15:42 -0400, Albert Willis wrote: > In my testing of the next version of Mac OS X 10.4, iChat still > complains that the password goes over insecurely when connecting to > the MIT Jabber server; my understanding is that our Jabber server > doesn't allow for that. > I'd like to file a bug with Apple; to do that, I'd need some basic > information, such as what Jabber server software we're running and any > configuration information that may be useful. We're running Jabberd 2.0s4. But I suspect this is a server issue; specifically, I think the server is failing to realize that it's operating over an SSL connection (because iChat uses old-style SSL on a different port, rather than new-style SSL negotiated over the main port), and is erroneously rejecting the attempt to do password authentication. I will look into this issue during the coming week. If we do have a line into Apple, though, one thing we might ask for is whether they have a secret way to turn on connection tracing within iChat. (gaim has this with "gaim -d", which has been extremely helpful to me so far.) An external packet trace isn't likely to be very helpful because of the SSL encryption. 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Thank you, maria Strasser From ghudson at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 11 13:34:45 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:34:45 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Jabber on Mac OS X 10.4 In-Reply-To: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> References: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> Message-ID: <200510111734.j9BHYjcJ005891@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> I misunderstood what was going on when connecting with Tiger's iChat to our Jabber server. I thought logins were being refused, when the problem is just a spurious warning dialog. For the record, according to jdreed, when you try to connect, you get a dialog with the title ""Non-secure Jabber Login" and the content "Your name and password will be sent in a way that is not secure. Do you still wish to connect to this server?". If you click continue, everything works, and a packet trace indicates that everything is SSL-encrypted. I no longer believe this behavior originates from the server. Certainly, the text "not secure" does not appear in the source code we are running. Al, you can go ahead and file a bug with Apple. As I mentioned before, we are running jabberd 2.0s4 at the moment. The only relevant configuration I know of is that the server requires SSL for logins. From ghudson at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 11 13:54:07 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:54:07 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Progress on gaim chatroom configuration bug In-Reply-To: <200509271817.j8RIHQXg021698@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> References: <200509271817.j8RIHQXg021698@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200510111754.j9BHs7t6006058@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> I wrote: > Since it will take time for a fix to reach the downloadable clients > anyway, we might want to tweak the server so that it generates less > than 4095 bytes of data in response to a chatroom configuration > query. Right now it is generating 4135 bytes, so we'd only have to > cut 40 bytes or so. Based on the server sources I now have access to, this will require modifying the mu-conference source code. So this change should wait until we have a source control system and a test server, which will hopefully be soon. > The fix is not obvious; I have kicked the matter up to the > gaim-devel list to ask for advice. I didn't receive any answer on the gaim-devel list, so I will have to take additional time to work out a fix. From awillis at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 11 16:21:21 2005 From: awillis at MIT.EDU (Albert Willis) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:21:21 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] iChat bug Message-ID: <58D3C897-2B2B-4FF3-9B91-47397B8E37FE@MIT.EDU> Okay, I've filed a bug with Apple regarding logging into jabber.mit.edu using iChat. -- Al From hallisey at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 12 09:41:27 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:41:27 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Draft note to Jabber piloteers Message-ID: Hello, Here is my draft note to the community inviting them to participate in the project. I have some edits from Greg. Please let me know if you see other editable content. In particular, I had started to put a note about using iChat, but deleted it. Is there anything that is appropriate for this invitation, or should we keep that information on the Web pages? Please let me know if there are particular email lists that this should target. I know of IT Partners, but think we out to include a student list. As soon as I hear that the Web pages are published I will send this out. Thanks, Joanne ------------- Hello, IS&T invites you to participate in a pilot of a Jabber Instant Messaging service. Jabber is an instant messaging system that allows MIT users to communicate with one another and Jabber users elsewhere on the Internet. Jabber also supports creation and joining of chat rooms for group communication. Additionally, many Jabber clients also offer support for other instant messaging systems such as AIM (AOL) and YIM (Yahoo). The intention of the pilot is to learn more about requirements for providing this as an enterprise messaging service and understand some of the support and service issues. The pilot will focus on setting up the server environment and delivering installers for GAIM and AdiumX (clients for Linux, Macintosh and Windows). This team effort is a first attempt at providing this messaging service. Limited best effort support is provided by the project team and pilot participants are strongly encouraged to provide feedback. As the pilot progresses, we will send updates and post them to the web pages listed below. A more formal release effort will begin if the pilot is successful. The following draft web pages provide download information, configuration instructions and information about know issues. Jabber Service Page http://web.mit.edu/ist/services/messaging/jabber.html Jabber Stock Answer Branch http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7916 Please note: As always, protect your password. Do not allow the client program to store your password. For questions or more information please contact the team at wocky at mit.edu. Thank you. For the Jabber Team, -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From pbh at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 12 17:55:14 2005 From: pbh at MIT.EDU (Paul B. Hill) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:55:14 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] FYI, Microsoft, Yahoo! Announce IM Interop Deal Message-ID: <200510122155.j9CLte2D000892@outgoing.mit.edu> Just an FYI... ----------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft, Yahoo! Announce IM Interop Deal Today Microsoft Corp. and Yahoo! announced an initiative to make MSN Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger compatible with each other. Read more: http://entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=6982 ------------------------------------------------------------ Although I have asked some people from Internet2 and the Common Solutions Group about their interest in drafting a joint letter to Google regarding Google Talk's inability to communicate with other Jabber systems, I have not yet received a response. Perhaps the above news will help to motivate some of our peers. Paul From ghudson at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 17 13:18:27 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:18:27 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Source repository for jabberd Message-ID: <200510171718.j9HHIRWp031544@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Last week, I created a Subversion repository for jabberd at /afs/dev.mit.edu/project/jabber/repos/jabberd. So far I've imported stock jabberd 2.0s4, incorporated Mark's changes as commits, and fixed a small bug. I've been able to use the test server to build the code and test my fix. If people would like, it would be easy to set up an Athena mailing list to receive commit email messages for these repositories. But I won't do the work if no one would subscribe to the list. On my short-term task list: * Create a similar repository for JCR, which is a separate package containing the chatroom functionality (called "mu-conference"). * Write down some notes on how to build jabberd and JCR. * Address an issue where building and reinstalling jabberd breaks the mu-conference startup. * Fix the gaim client bug affecting chatroom configuration (unrelated, but easier to do with the servers in their current state). * Hack the JCR code to present a slightly smaller chatroom configuration message, for the sake of broken gaim clients. Test that change and get Mark to put it in production. * Import jabberd 2.0s10 (which has SASL authentication support) and merge the current local changes with it. Install the resulting code on the test server. * Grab Simon Wilkinson's gaim patches, figure out how to build gaim with SASL support on Athena, and test Kerberos authentication against 2.0s10 the test server. * Get 2.0s10 into production. (I don't think we need a comprehensive testing plan for server upgrades while we're in a pilot phase with low usage, but that's something to think about for the future.) From jdreed at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 17 13:30:08 2005 From: jdreed at MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Jabber on Mac OS X 10.4 In-Reply-To: <200510111734.j9BHYjcJ005891@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> References: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> <200510111734.j9BHYjcJ005891@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Message-ID: At 1:34 PM -0400 10/11/05, Greg Hudson wrote: >I no longer believe this behavior originates from the server. >Certainly, the text "not secure" does not appear in the source code we >are running. > >Al, you can go ahead and file a bug with Apple. As I mentioned >before, we are running jabberd 2.0s4 at the moment. The only relevant >configuration I know of is that the server requires SSL for logins. Ooops, I screwed up. I thought this was on the server, because when I looked in the resource bundle for iChat, and even the binary itself, I didn't find that. I didn't think to check for a framework, and sure enough, the text appears in iChatAgent in InstantMessage.Framework. There's also a bunch of stuff about certificates in there, so I wonder if it's merely failing to verify the certificate chain. Does jabber.mit.edu have a real cert signed by the MIT CA, or is it a self-signed cert? Regardless, even if the cause is failed CA verification, it's still a bug, since the error message should be more verbose. I have the MIT CA in my keychain, so it should work, unless for some reason iChatAgent doesn't use the Keychain. -Jon -- ------------------- Jonathan Reed jdreed at mit.edu ------------------- From awillis at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 17 17:58:41 2005 From: awillis at MIT.EDU (Albert Willis) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:58:41 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Jabber on Mac OS X 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: <66505B76-0070-4D55-82CD-D667716B3F5C@MIT.EDU> <200510111734.j9BHYjcJ005891@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Jonathan Reed wrote: > At 1:34 PM -0400 10/11/05, Greg Hudson wrote: > >> I no longer believe this behavior originates from the server. >> Certainly, the text "not secure" does not appear in the source >> code we >> are running. >> >> Al, you can go ahead and file a bug with Apple. As I mentioned >> before, we are running jabberd 2.0s4 at the moment. The only >> relevant >> configuration I know of is that the server requires SSL for logins. >> > > Ooops, I screwed up. I thought this was on the server, because > when I looked in the resource bundle for iChat, and even the binary > itself, I didn't find that. I didn't think to check for a > framework, and sure enough, the text appears in iChatAgent in > InstantMessage.Framework. > > There's also a bunch of stuff about certificates in there, so I > wonder if it's merely failing to verify the certificate chain. > Does jabber.mit.edu have a real cert signed by the MIT CA, or is it > a self-signed cert? Regardless, even if the cause is failed CA > verification, it's still a bug, since the error message should be > more verbose. > > I have the MIT CA in my keychain, so it should work, unless for > some reason iChatAgent doesn't use the Keychain. > > -Jon The response I received from Apple is that it's a known issue that is being investigated by engineering. I also thought about the certificate possibility as well; so far, having the MIT CA in the X509Anchors keychain and having my personal certificate in the login keychain hasn't made a difference. -- Al From hallisey at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 18 10:59:10 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:59:10 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot Message-ID: Hello, IS&T invites you to participate in a pilot of a Jabber Instant Messaging service. Jabber is an instant messaging system that allows MIT users to communicate with one another and Jabber users elsewhere on the Internet. Jabber also supports creation and joining of chat rooms for group communication. Additionally, many Jabber clients also offer support for other instant messaging systems such as AIM (AOL) and YIM (Yahoo). The intention of the pilot is to learn more about requirements for providing this as an enterprise messaging service and understand some of the support and service issues. The pilot will focus on setting up the server environment and delivering installers for GAIM and AdiumX (software clients for Linux, Macintosh and Windows). The Jabber pilot team will provide limited best effort support, and pilot participants are strongly encouraged to give feedback. As the pilot progresses, the team will send updates and post them to the web pages listed below. The pilot will run through December 2005. IS&T will start a more formal release effort if the pilot is successful. The following draft web pages provide download information, configuration instructions and information about known issues. Jabber Service Page Jabber Stock Answer Branch Please note: As always, protect your password. Do not allow the client program to store your password. For questions or more information please contact the team via the Wocky mailing list: Wocky at mit.edu Thank you. For the Jabber Team, -- Joanne Hallisey _______________________________________________ Reminders: - Make off-campus connections through the Virtual Private Network. For information on the VPN see - Take advantage of the MIT Windows Automatic Update Service. For information on WAUS see - Take advantage of a recent enhancement to MIT's Spam Screening service which allows for personally setting the number of days "spam" is aged prior to auto deletion. For more complete information and to set your personal options see -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From ssawyer at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 18 12:28:11 2005 From: ssawyer at MIT.EDU (Sharron Sawyer) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:28:11 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Buddies not working/showing Message-ID: <005e01c5d400$eef7e880$9b021212@mit.edu> Any clues as to why? I tried to adding regular screen names from my current AOL instant messenger and someone with an mit.edu address. Neither worked. sharron Sharron Sawyer QA Analyst MIT Information Services & Technology W92-210, 304 Vassar St. Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 258-0235 ssawyer at mit.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/wocky/attachments/20051018/569fb641/attachment.htm From tgriffin at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 18 13:32:10 2005 From: tgriffin at MIT.EDU (Tim Griffin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:32:10 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Aduimx Message-ID: <80fe7b64bbfcd722665572874848b335@mit.edu> Hi, After installing AdiumX on OS X 10.3.8 it doesn't work. It's verision .085. It worked fine with .084 ~Tim ______________________________________ Tim Griffin Web Communications Manager MIT Center for Transportation and Logistics (CTL) E40-288, x3-1342 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not on this list yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Lang Room N42-140Q | This space for rent Consultant MIT unix-linux-help | Voice:617-253-7438 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 Note to subscribers: Please e-mail to unix-linux-help at Mit.edu so that all the consultants see your message. This will ensure a more timely response. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From jdreed at MIT.EDU Tue Oct 18 15:19:02 2005 From: jdreed at MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:19:02 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Re: Jabber - Linux client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you trying to send a message to blang, or blang at mit.edu? You need to use the fully qualified name. I'm using Jabber with the Gaim that came with RHEL4, and I was able to reproduce that error if I try to chat with "jdreed", but if I chat with "jdreed at mit.edu", it works as expected. The Gaim that comes with RHEL definitely works, though. -Jon At 2:59 PM -0400 10/18/05, Robert M. Lang wrote: >Hi, > >I just tried using Aim 1.3.1-0.el4.3 on RHEL 4, and when I try to jabber >to myself, I get a message: > >Jabber Message Error >message delivery to username failed (Code 502) > >I figure the problem is related to the fact that I'm running Aim 1.3.1 and >not 1.5 as recommended. The problem is that Aim 1.5 is not available at >this time from the MIT RHN satellite proxy server. > >Has anyone made this work under Linux? > >rml >p.s. I'm not on this list yet. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Bob Lang Room N42-140Q | This space for rent >Consultant MIT unix-linux-help | >Voice:617-253-7438 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >Note to subscribers: Please e-mail to unix-linux-help at Mit.edu so that all the >consultants see your message. This will ensure a more timely response. Thanks. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wocky mailing list >Wocky at mit.edu >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/wocky -- ------------------- Jonathan Reed jdreed at mit.edu ------------------- From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Oct 18 15:33:41 2005 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Wocky] Re: Jabber - Linux client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Jonathan Reed wrote: > Are you trying to send a message to blang, or blang at mit.edu? You > need to use the fully qualified name. I'm using Jabber with the Gaim > that came with RHEL4, and I was able to reproduce that error if I try > to chat with "jdreed", but if I chat with "jdreed at mit.edu", it works > as expected. That was it - thanks! > The Gaim that comes with RHEL definitely works, though. > > -Jon regards, rml ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Lang Room N42-140Q | This space for rent Consultant MIT unix-linux-help | Voice:617-253-7438 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 Note to subscribers: Please e-mail to unix-linux-help at Mit.edu so that all the consultants see your message. This will ensure a more timely response. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hallisey at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 09:29:30 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:29:30 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Re: Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20051018150511.01e101f8@po12.mit.edu> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20051018150511.01e101f8@po12.mit.edu> Message-ID: Hi Cecilia, I am copying the list so that the others can see your list of requirements and answer. Thanks, Joanne >Hi Joanne, > >I would like to participate in this pilot. I am looking for a chat >product that could be integrated (thin client, browser-based) within >a student advising web site, so that students could ask questions >and have them answered by advisors real time. I would like >kerb/certificate authentication and encryption, to abide by FERPA >regulations. It'd be great if those requirements could be met by a >chat service offered through IS&T. > >Thanks. >Cecilia > > >At 10:59 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote: >>Hello, >> >>IS&T invites you to participate in a pilot of a Jabber Instant >>Messaging service. Jabber is an instant messaging system that >>allows MIT users to communicate with one another and Jabber users >>elsewhere on the Internet. Jabber also supports creation and >>joining of chat rooms for group communication. Additionally, many >>Jabber clients also offer support for other instant messaging >>systems such as AIM (AOL) and YIM (Yahoo). >> >>The intention of the pilot is to learn more about requirements for >>providing this as an enterprise messaging service and understand >>some of the support and service issues. The pilot will focus on >>setting up the server environment and delivering installers for >>GAIM and AdiumX (software clients for Linux, Macintosh and Windows). >> >>The Jabber pilot team will provide limited best effort support, and >>pilot participants are strongly encouraged to give feedback. As the >>pilot progresses, the team will send updates and post them to the >>web pages listed below. The pilot will run through December 2005. >>IS&T will start a more formal release effort if the pilot is >>successful. >> >>The following draft web pages provide download information, >>configuration instructions and information about known issues. >> >>Jabber Service Page >> >> >>Jabber Stock Answer Branch >> >> >>Please note: >>As always, protect your password. Do not allow the client program >>to store your password. >> >>For questions or more information please contact the team via the >>Wocky mailing list: >>Wocky at mit.edu >> >> >>Thank you. >>For the Jabber Team, >>-- >>Joanne Hallisey >>_______________________________________________ >>Reminders: >>- Make off-campus connections through the Virtual Private Network. >>For information on the VPN see >> >> >>- Take advantage of the MIT Windows Automatic Update Service. For >>information on WAUS see >> >> >>- Take advantage of a recent enhancement to MIT's Spam Screening >>service which allows for personally setting the number of days >>"spam" is aged prior to auto deletion. For more complete >>information and to set your personal options see >> >> >>-- >>Joanne Hallisey >>Sr. Project Manager >>MIT - Information Services and Technology >>617-253-1894 > >Web and Database Consultant >Office of Academic Services >MIT >617-253-1196 >cmarra at mit.edu -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From hallisey at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 09:33:49 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:33:49 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Re: Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Gurukarm. What I do it to invite someone using their email address (including @mit.edu) so, you don't have to know a screen name. Since this is a pilot, the extent of its use on campus is somewhat limited. If you know others on the wocky list, you can start there. You can also mention it to colleagues. Thanks, Joanne >Joanne, although I use a different Mac-based multi-chat client >(Fire, accessing AIM, MSN & Yahoo), I thought I'd try this as well - >I have not had a Jabber account in the past. > >My question is, now that I have set up and configured Adium, how do >I find out who else around campus is online and available? > >Thanks! >Gurukarm >........................................................................................ >Gurukarm K. Khalsa Course 7 & Biology Dept. Web Ofc >68-132, 617-452-3683 MIT Dept. of Biology >gkkhalsa at mit.edu http://mit.edu/biology/www/ >........................................................................................ > >>Hello, >> >>IS&T invites you to participate in a pilot of a Jabber Instant >>Messaging service. Jabber is an instant messaging system that >>allows MIT users to communicate with one another and Jabber users >>elsewhere on the Internet. Jabber also supports creation and >>joining of chat rooms for group communication. Additionally, many >>Jabber clients also offer support for other instant messaging >>systems such as AIM (AOL) and YIM (Yahoo). >> >>The intention of the pilot is to learn more about requirements for >>providing this as an enterprise messaging service and understand >>some of the support and service issues. The pilot will focus on >>setting up the server environment and delivering installers for >>GAIM and AdiumX (software clients for Linux, Macintosh and Windows). >> >>The Jabber pilot team will provide limited best effort support, and >>pilot participants are strongly encouraged to give feedback. As the >>pilot progresses, the team will send updates and post them to the >>web pages listed below. The pilot will run through December 2005. >>IS&T will start a more formal release effort if the pilot is >>successful. >> >>The following draft web pages provide download information, >>configuration instructions and information about known issues. >> >>Jabber Service Page >> >> >>Jabber Stock Answer Branch >> >> >>Please note: >>As always, protect your password. Do not allow the client program >>to store your password. >> >>For questions or more information please contact the team via the >>Wocky mailing list: >>Wocky at mit.edu >> >> >>Thank you. >>For the Jabber Team, >>-- >>Joanne Hallisey >>_______________________________________________ >>Reminders: >>- Make off-campus connections through the Virtual Private Network. >>For information on the VPN see >> >> >>- Take advantage of the MIT Windows Automatic Update Service. For >>information on WAUS see >> >> >>- Take advantage of a recent enhancement to MIT's Spam Screening >>service which allows for personally setting the number of days >>"spam" is aged prior to auto deletion. For more complete >>information and to set your personal options see >> >> >>-- >>Joanne Hallisey >>Sr. Project Manager >>MIT - Information Services and Technology >>617-253-1894 -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From pbh at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 10:55:55 2005 From: pbh at MIT.EDU (Paul B. Hill) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:55:55 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Re: Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200510191456.j9JEu6CE011363@outgoing.mit.edu> Hi Cecilia, To date we haven't investigated any of the browser based Jabber clients, nor have we developed a timeline of when we will tackle this issue. There is the open source JWChat which looks interesting. However, the authentication issue presents a challenge at the moment. Scott Thorne has also indicated that there is some interest in creating an OKI OSID implementation to use the Jabber service for IM. I don't think anyone at MIT is actively working on that, but perhaps someone outside of MIT is working on it. Paul Hill Information Services and Technology -----Original Message----- From: wocky-bounces at MIT.EDU [mailto:wocky-bounces at MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Joanne M. Hallisey Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:30 AM To: Cecilia Marra Cc: wocky at mit.edu Subject: [Wocky] Re: Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot Hi Cecilia, I am copying the list so that the others can see your list of requirements and answer. Thanks, Joanne >Hi Joanne, > >I would like to participate in this pilot. I am looking for a chat >product that could be integrated (thin client, browser-based) within >a student advising web site, so that students could ask questions >and have them answered by advisors real time. I would like >kerb/certificate authentication and encryption, to abide by FERPA >regulations. It'd be great if those requirements could be met by a >chat service offered through IS&T. > >Thanks. >Cecilia > > >At 10:59 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote: >>Hello, >> >>IS&T invites you to participate in a pilot of a Jabber Instant >>Messaging service. Jabber is an instant messaging system that >>allows MIT users to communicate with one another and Jabber users >>elsewhere on the Internet. Jabber also supports creation and >>joining of chat rooms for group communication. Additionally, many >>Jabber clients also offer support for other instant messaging >>systems such as AIM (AOL) and YIM (Yahoo). >> >>The intention of the pilot is to learn more about requirements for >>providing this as an enterprise messaging service and understand >>some of the support and service issues. The pilot will focus on >>setting up the server environment and delivering installers for >>GAIM and AdiumX (software clients for Linux, Macintosh and Windows). >> >>The Jabber pilot team will provide limited best effort support, and >>pilot participants are strongly encouraged to give feedback. As the >>pilot progresses, the team will send updates and post them to the >>web pages listed below. The pilot will run through December 2005. >>IS&T will start a more formal release effort if the pilot is >>successful. >> >>The following draft web pages provide download information, >>configuration instructions and information about known issues. >> >>Jabber Service Page >> >> >>Jabber Stock Answer Branch >> >> >>Please note: >>As always, protect your password. Do not allow the client program >>to store your password. >> >>For questions or more information please contact the team via the >>Wocky mailing list: >>Wocky at mit.edu >> >> >>Thank you. >>For the Jabber Team, >>-- >>Joanne Hallisey >>_______________________________________________ >>Reminders: >>- Make off-campus connections through the Virtual Private Network. >>For information on the VPN see >> >> >>- Take advantage of the MIT Windows Automatic Update Service. For >>information on WAUS see >> >> >>- Take advantage of a recent enhancement to MIT's Spam Screening >>service which allows for personally setting the number of days >>"spam" is aged prior to auto deletion. For more complete >>information and to set your personal options see >> >> >>-- >>Joanne Hallisey >>Sr. Project Manager >>MIT - Information Services and Technology >>617-253-1894 > >Web and Database Consultant >Office of Academic Services >MIT >617-253-1196 >cmarra at mit.edu -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 _______________________________________________ Wocky mailing list Wocky at mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/wocky From cmarra at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 11:29:10 2005 From: cmarra at MIT.EDU (Cecilia Marra) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:29:10 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Re: Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot In-Reply-To: <200510191456.j9JEu6CE011363@outgoing.mit.edu> References: <200510191456.j9JEu6CE011363@outgoing.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20051019110917.01e19d40@po12.mit.edu> Thanks, Paul. Forgive me for being pushy or obtuse (and greedy!), but based on potential interest and the pilot status of this effort, can authentication, encryption, and a thin client be included in the functional requirements of this tool? There is a product I just recently heard about, in use by some other educational institutions, called LivePerson (http://www.timpani.com/). They have an ASP business model and I don't know what technology they're using. You can embed the feature in a web site, and it supposedly has 128-bit SSL encryption. The cost is actually fairly reasonable, but of course I'd much rather explore a service offered by MIT. Cecilia At 10:55 AM 10/19/2005, Paul B. Hill wrote: >Hi Cecilia, > >To date we haven't investigated any of the browser based Jabber clients, nor >have we developed a timeline of when we will tackle this issue. There is the >open source JWChat which looks interesting. >However, the authentication issue presents a challenge at the moment. > >Scott Thorne has also indicated that there is some interest in creating an >OKI OSID implementation to use the Jabber service for IM. I don't think >anyone at MIT is actively working on that, but perhaps someone outside of >MIT is working on it. > >Paul Hill >Information Services and Technology > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: wocky-bounces at MIT.EDU [mailto:wocky-bounces at MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of >Joanne M. Hallisey >Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:30 AM >To: Cecilia Marra >Cc: wocky at mit.edu >Subject: [Wocky] Re: Invitation to participate in the Jabber messaging pilot > >Hi Cecilia, > >I am copying the list so that the others can see your list of >requirements and answer. > >Thanks, >Joanne > > >Hi Joanne, > > > >I would like to participate in this pilot. I am looking for a chat > >product that could be integrated (thin client, browser-based) within > >a student advising web site, so that students could ask questions > >and have them answered by advisors real time. I would like > >kerb/certificate authentication and encryption, to abide by FERPA > >regulations. It'd be great if those requirements could be met by a > >chat service offered through IS&T. > > > >Thanks. > >Cecilia > > > > > >At 10:59 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote: > >>Hello, > >> > >>IS&T invites you to participate in a pilot of a Jabber Instant > >>Messaging service. Jabber is an instant messaging system that > >>allows MIT users to communicate with one another and Jabber users > >>elsewhere on the Internet. Jabber also supports creation and > >>joining of chat rooms for group communication. Additionally, many > >>Jabber clients also offer support for other instant messaging > >>systems such as AIM (AOL) and YIM (Yahoo). > >> > >>The intention of the pilot is to learn more about requirements for > >>providing this as an enterprise messaging service and understand > >>some of the support and service issues. The pilot will focus on > >>setting up the server environment and delivering installers for > >>GAIM and AdiumX (software clients for Linux, Macintosh and Windows). > >> > >>The Jabber pilot team will provide limited best effort support, and > >>pilot participants are strongly encouraged to give feedback. As the > >>pilot progresses, the team will send updates and post them to the > >>web pages listed below. The pilot will run through December 2005. > >>IS&T will start a more formal release effort if the pilot is > >>successful. > >> > >>The following draft web pages provide download information, > >>configuration instructions and information about known issues. > >> > >>Jabber Service Page > >> > >> > >>Jabber Stock Answer Branch > >> > >> > >>Please note: > >>As always, protect your password. Do not allow the client program > >>to store your password. > >> > >>For questions or more information please contact the team via the > >>Wocky mailing list: > >>Wocky at mit.edu > >> > >> > >>Thank you. > >>For the Jabber Team, > >>-- > >>Joanne Hallisey > >>_______________________________________________ From eduardog at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 14:04:03 2005 From: eduardog at MIT.EDU (Eduardo Gonzalez) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:04:03 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] minor issues with instructions to configure Gaim Message-ID: <00bd01c5d4d7$7dc3ac80$df025012@D6LPJ451b> Hi, I just noticed something in the instructions to configure Gaim (http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7918). Step 8 says: 8. Enter the following settings: Port: 5222 Connect server: jabber.mit.edu Resource: Gaim Proxy Type: select "Use Global Proxy Settings" I am able to enter the port and the server name but there is no "Resource" field in the "Jabber Options" section. That field is above under "Login Options". That was a bit confusing but I figured it was a duplicate. The line "Resource: Gaim" in Step 8 should be deleted though, and the one in Step 5 should stay. Also (while I'm at it.:-) step 5 says "principle". I believe that should be "principal". In step 5 too, the word "recommed" should be changed to "recommend". Finally, step 10 should say "accounts". Thanks.! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ghudson at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 15:22:14 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:22:14 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Re: Jabber Kerberos patches In-Reply-To: <43569C01.1090209@sxw.org.uk> References: <200508021606.j72G67FQ013163@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> <43569C01.1090209@sxw.org.uk> Message-ID: <1129749734.15179.205.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Ah, excellent to hear there's been progress on your front. We are just getting close to being in a position to test your patches in our environment, and are interested in getting your updated patches. We decided to give up on Exodus for Windows and just use Gaim there. On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 20:18 +0100, Simon Wilkinson wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Just to let you know, I've now added support for kerberized Jabber > connections to AdiumX (on the Mac) and Gaim (for Windows). My new Gaim > patches remove the need for CyrusSASL - making it a lot easier to use > them on platforms that don't have it installed. > > Let me know if you're interested in the patches. > > Cheers. > > Simon. From tfitz at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 16:11:54 2005 From: tfitz at MIT.EDU (Tom Fitzgerald) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:11:54 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Unauthenticated jabber? Message-ID: <1129752714.25044.261.camel@sligo.mit.edu> Is there any way of getting an unauthenticated user to send through the MIT server, as in "zwrite -d"? Alternatively, is it possible to get another jabber server to peer with jabber.mit.edu so I can send automated stuff server-to-server? From ghudson at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 19 16:15:24 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:15:24 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Unauthenticated jabber? In-Reply-To: <1129752714.25044.261.camel@sligo.mit.edu> References: <1129752714.25044.261.camel@sligo.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1129752924.15179.208.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 16:11 -0400, Tom Fitzgerald wrote: > Is there any way of getting an unauthenticated user to > send through the MIT server, as in "zwrite -d"? Right now we're running jabberd 2.0s4; we plan to upgrade soon to jabberd 2.0s10, which supports a wider range of authentication mechanisms. One of those mechanisms is the anonymous mechanism; I will have to look into what policies jabberd 2.0s10 offers for handling that. From ssawyer at MIT.EDU Thu Oct 20 12:39:10 2005 From: ssawyer at MIT.EDU (Sharron Sawyer) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] a few questions Message-ID: <006b01c5d594$cc538970$9b021212@mit.edu> Ok I have GAIM installed ok but I can't seem to add buddies. I've added my own successfully but that's it. I was under the impression that we would be able to enter anyone at mit. Did I get that wrong. I'm not a techie like a lot of you folks sound like you are. sharron Sharron Sawyer QA Analyst MIT Information Services & Technology W92-210, 304 Vassar St. Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 258-0235 ssawyer at mit.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/wocky/attachments/20051020/f4c9d293/attachment.htm From ghudson at MIT.EDU Thu Oct 20 13:02:59 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] a few questions In-Reply-To: <006b01c5d594$cc538970$9b021212@mit.edu> References: <006b01c5d594$cc538970$9b021212@mit.edu> Message-ID: <1129827779.15179.213.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 12:39 -0400, Sharron Sawyer wrote: > Ok I have GAIM installed ok but I can?t seem to add buddies. I?ve > added my own successfully but that?s it. I was under the impression > that we would be able to enter anyone at mit. Did I get that wrong. > I?m not a techie like a lot of you folks sound like you are. With gaim, you need to use the full "username at mit.edu" when adding buddies; simply adding "username" won't work. (iChat, on the other hand, seems to do the right thing with just "username".) This has been a common usability issue for the pilot, and is something we will definitely try to address. From ghudson at MIT.EDU Fri Oct 21 01:16:16 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] More progress on gaim chatroom configuration bug Message-ID: <200510210516.j9L5GGCY019429@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> I looked further into the gaim chatroom configuration bug. I identified three approaches to fixing the problem, two of which don't seem practical (one of those wouldn't completely solve the problem anyway). The third approach, performing repeated non-blocking reads from the SSL socket in the callback, is easily workable in NSPR but not in gnutls, the other SSL library supported by gaim. I will have to learn more about gnutls in order to create a fix I can have a hope of getting into the upstream code base. I found an existing bug from last year in gaim's bug database and appended my findings to it: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1048535&group_id=235&atid=100235 From bbrids at MIT.EDU Fri Oct 21 13:47:26 2005 From: bbrids at MIT.EDU (Bill Brids) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:47:26 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] jabber / gaim Message-ID: <007d01c5d667$800e6610$7d009812@ist.ms.mit.edu> A few questions that I have come up with -- Buddy lists are not showing "buddies" why? ( Windows XP users) How do I create a room? For example if I wanted to create a room for HELPDESK what are the steps? few typos in http://itinfo.mit.edu/answer.php?id=7918 the words "accounts: and "recommend" thanks bill brids -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/wocky/attachments/20051021/3f328f57/attachment.htm From ghudson at MIT.EDU Fri Oct 21 15:27:21 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:27:21 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Patch submitted for gaim chatroom configuration issue Message-ID: <200510211927.j9LJRLFn013543@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> I've submitted a patch upstream for the Gaim SSL stalling issue; it's at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1334428&group_id=235&atid=300235 We'll see if they take it. I will now move on to modifying the server's mu-conference code so that it doesn't trigger the bug. From ghudson at MIT.EDU Fri Oct 21 16:37:09 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:37:09 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] jabber / gaim In-Reply-To: <007d01c5d667$800e6610$7d009812@ist.ms.mit.edu> References: <007d01c5d667$800e6610$7d009812@ist.ms.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1129927029.15179.236.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 13:47 -0400, Bill Brids wrote: > A few questions that I have come up with -- > > Buddy lists are not showing "buddies" why? ( Windows XP users) Go to Buddies -> Show Offline Buddies. Also, you will need to be authorized by your buddies before you can tell their online status; until then, they will always appear to be offline. Your buddies will get a dialog requesting authorization when they log in. > How do I create a room? For example if I wanted to create a room for > HELPDESK what are the steps? Buddies -> Join a Chat If you choose to configure the chat room rather than accept defaults, there is a known issue where gaim won't display the configuration dialog immediately. You'll need to "jog" the connection by sending yourself a message, and then you should see the dialog. From tfitz at MIT.EDU Fri Oct 21 18:04:22 2005 From: tfitz at MIT.EDU (Tom Fitzgerald) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:04:22 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Server-to-server In-Reply-To: <1129927029.15179.236.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> References: <007d01c5d667$800e6610$7d009812@ist.ms.mit.edu> <1129927029.15179.236.camel@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1129932262.25044.560.camel@sligo.mit.edu> It looks like server-to-server communication is disabled on jabber.mit.edu. Is this planned at some point? (or am I misinterpreting?) From hallisey at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 24 08:41:37 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:41:37 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Meeting Tuesday, Oct. 25 at 3:00 Message-ID: Hello, There will be a project team meeting to talk about progress and next steps on Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2005 in W92-125. All contributors are welcome. See you there. Thanks, Joanne -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From hallisey at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 26 09:23:16 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Meeting Notes: Jabber - October 25, 2005 Message-ID: Jabber Meeting Notes October 25, 2005 Several questions are coming in to the list. The open issues were discussed. Greg will send out a followup email listing those items to be investigated in the near future. Support of piloteers: Right now Greg is answering questions; Paul has answered some. If the volume increases, will want to split up the load. Need to look at how to eventually move this to support. Do we want to use RT so that we can show the volume and types of questions to CSS? If the volume increases we may want to consider. Next steps: - Has Atticus completed the Gaim installer? Where is he with the Mac installer? Joanne will ask him. - Greg will be deploying 2.0 s10 to the test server - Heather will begin a draft version page for Windows Gaim. What is the followup on Cecila Marra's request - what would be the level of work involved to meet this request? Out of the scope of the initial pilot. Good phase 2 effort. Jabber Inc. sells a web-based product. Needs more discussion. For coming out of pilot will want to know how to move from PO15 to the production server. What is the process of getting 2.0 s 10 on a production server? Criteria for deploying enterprise-wide What is the uptake? How many messages are being exchanged? What is the load performance? Keep track of how many messages we get per unit time? Technical issues? What are the things that need to be in place for a rollout? Support and Service model etc. -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From ghudson at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 26 09:32:29 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:32:29 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Open issues list Message-ID: <200510261332.j9QDWTF5026237@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> Here are the issues we plan to look into in the near future: * "Add Buddy" provides no feedback when the buddy is offline or does not quickly authorize you. * The default of must-authorize-all-buddy-requests does not seem intuitive to users of Zephyr or commercial services. * Need ways of sending automated messages from servers. * On Athena, there is a request to install the gaim-encryption plugin. * Using "username" as an abbreviation for "username at mit.edu" silently fails. * Need a way to bring up a chatroom configuration window after chatroom creation. * Gaim SSL connections can stall, and do so during chatroom creation. * Server does not appear to be supporting server-to-server messaging. * Need single sign-on support in server and clients. From ghudson at MIT.EDU Wed Oct 26 09:59:40 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:59:40 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] Server workaround for gaim SSL connection stalling Message-ID: <200510261359.j9QDxeJ0026504@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> I have prepared and tested a modification to mu-conference so that chatroom configuration messages for new chatrooms fit within gaim's 4095-byte buffer, and thus do not trigger the SSL connection-stalling bug. Mark, if you want to apply this change to the production Jabber server, it's in the jcr source tree and repository at /afs/dev.mit.edu/project/jabber. But since I also expect to have a larger update ready early next week for jabberd 2.0s10, this can wait until then. From hallisey at MIT.EDU Thu Oct 27 14:21:29 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:21:29 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] RE: my preferences not being saved Message-ID: Hi Sharon, I asked Jon Hunt to try the two functions you asked about. The Options menu on the messaging window has a check box for the time stamp. You should be able to uncheck it. The format color interface that has an eyedropper approach. If you drag the eyedropper to the color you want and click, then click OK, it will change the color. ( On AdiumX it is under the Format menu.) Did the font change? If others on the list have a chance to respons, please do. Thanks, Joanne > > >>I went to Tools?Account Actions?Set User Info. >>and changed my font and font color, clicked save >>and nothing happens. I even closed out of the >>app and came back. Also I have to click on 'Time >>Stamp' every session to make it go away. How do >>I get rid of it completely? >> >>Thanks. >> >>sharron >> >>Sharron Sawyer >>QA Analyst >>MIT Information Services & Technology >>W92-210, 304 Vassar St. >>Cambridge, MA 02139 >>(617) 258-0235 >>ssawyer at mit.edu >> > > >-- >Joanne Hallisey >Sr. Project Manager >MIT - Information Services and Technology >617-253-1894 -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From hallisey at MIT.EDU Thu Oct 27 15:40:06 2005 From: hallisey at MIT.EDU (Joanne M. Hallisey) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:40:06 -0400 Subject: [Wocky] RE: my preferences not being saved Message-ID: Thanks Joanne. I realize I can check/uncheck the time stamp option to turn it off/on. My problem is that I have to turn it off every session because it keeps resetting to being ?on? which is annoying b/c I don?t want it on. Also, in terms of the font style and color ? I get how to do it ? but it seems like you have to set it for every buddy. When I go to Tools-->Account Actions--> Set User Info. I thought I could save my font color and style as global settings but it doesn?t seem to be working. I can swing by and show you if you want! sharron Sharron Sawyer QA Analyst MIT Information Services & Technology W92-210, 304 Vassar St. Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 258-0235 ssawyer at mit.edu -----Original Message----- From: Joanne M. Hallisey [mailto:hallisey at MIT.EDU] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:03 PM To: Sharron Sawyer Cc: wopcky at mit.edu Subject: RE: my preferences not being saved Hi Sharon, I asked Jon Hunt to try the two functions you asked about. The Options menu on the messaging window has a check box for the time stamp. You should be able to uncheck it. The format color interface that has an eyedropper approach. If you drag the eyedropper to the color you want and click, then click OK, it will change the color. ( On AdiumX it is under the Format menu.) Did the font change? If others on the list have a chance to respons, please do. Thanks, Joanne > > >>I went to Tools?Account Actions?Set User Info. >>and changed my font and font color, clicked save >>and nothing happens. I even closed out of the >>app and came back. Also I have to click on 'Time >>Stamp' every session to make it go away. How do >>I get rid of it completely? >> >>Thanks. >> >>sharron >> >>Sharron Sawyer >>QA Analyst >>MIT Information Services & Technology >>W92-210, 304 Vassar St. >>Cambridge, MA 02139 >>(617) 258-0235 >>ssawyer at mit.edu >> > > >-- >Joanne Hallisey >Sr. Project Manager >MIT - Information Services and Technology >617-253-1894 -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 -- Joanne Hallisey Sr. Project Manager MIT - Information Services and Technology 617-253-1894 From ghudson at MIT.EDU Mon Oct 31 15:51:44 2005 From: ghudson at MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:51:44 -0500 Subject: [Wocky] jabberd upgrade status Message-ID: <200510312051.j9VKpiD4009502@egyptian-gods.mit.edu> I have merged jabber 2.0s10 into the source repository and tested it on wocky.mit.edu (it's running there), but apparently I was confused about the status of the SASL support patches. I thought they had been integrated into the stable branch, but apparently they're only in the CVS head. It will take me a few extra days to review the SASL support patches and see if they can be reasonably backported to the 2.0 stable branch. I expect it will be possible; if not, we can probably run a snapshot of the CVS head during the pilot phase and assume that 2.1 will be released before we go into full production.