[Tango-L] N.U.E.V.O.

Ecsedy Áron aron at milonga.hu
Thu Oct 8 18:30:15 EDT 2009


Dear Anton,

I see your point. But you may (also?) suffer of a civilizational 
'disease'. Many people create a concept of tango for themselves which is 
sort of an introvert concept. It is tango zen. The harmony in tango etc. 
This is obviously the result of western sped up lifestyle: you are 
looking for an island of peace in tango. I do not think that this is 
wrong. It is however neither entirely authentic nor the 'full' picture.
> out-bump most. It's the extra attention I have to divert from connection to
> my partner and the music that I find painfully annoying. To feel that an
>   
Navigation in a milonga is pretty straightforward. General 
counterclockwise path. You are only responsible for the path into the 
'forward' direction (on the counterclockwise path). Do not take steps 
outide your actual field of view, only make steps into space that is 
empty and that is not being taken by another couple at least for the 
next beat (this requires some anticipation based on the couple's curve 
and speed on the floor). Accelerate only as much so you can still stop 
for the end of the beat. (that together with the use empty space only 
'rule' makes it possible to do large or fast steps even in a crowd) Of 
course, if someone is travelling fast, it is much harder to anticipate 
what is going to happen - no problem there: it is then the speeder's 
problem to make sure you have ample time and information to judge. If 
not, see below...
> unpredictable missile is sharing the dance floor with me, triggers my combat
>   
If you are only 'afraid' of a collision then it may be just your Western 
instinct: when you go around BsAs for the first time (even on foot) most 
people have mortal fear, because nobody seems to be aware of your zone 
of personal comfort (closeness). After a few days it is natural that 
people are coming really close to you, but some people can't accept it 
even after years. It is a question of personality.

Nevertheless, this should not be mixed up with the situation when you 
need to actually stop, break hard or change direction because the other 
couple is a bad navigator - in which case you are absolutely right. My 
suggestion: tell them!
> milonga floors, is some of the guys engaging in a form of pissing
> competition. A very visual demonstration of their tango prowess. Not the
>   
Well, I think this type of showing off is a part of the game. Of course 
some people do it with style and charm, others act as human fireworks, 
which is also very Western (or Northern). Anyway, you should not be 
interested in them if you can do your own stuff at the same time. Most 
'firework' type dancers are not really preferred by the majority as 
partners...
> subtlety and depth to which I strive. Quite often I find it more peaceful to
>   
There you go. Stick to it, it is your style. As for the others, until 
they become a _physical_ obstacle, it is their dancing. If they are fast 
or use large steps, they will need very advanced navigational (and 
dancing) skills. If they don't have it, IMO just tell how it feels what 
they do. If you are the third to tell them this, they will listen...if 
you never tell them, they might never understand.

Cheers,
Aron

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