[Tango-L] Tergiversar = to distort, twist

Nina Pesochinsky nina at earthnet.net
Thu Sep 25 12:48:24 EDT 2008


So what is the value of an over-explained tango?




Quoting David Thorn <thorn-inside at hotmail.com>:

>
> I would Mario wrote:
>>> love to see a video of this give and take between partners...even   
>>> Chichi Fromboli
>>>  doesn't do this..he leads and she follows..
>
> In full knowledge that the flame throwers are in alignment, here goes:
>
> Mario - Yes, compelling me to slow down, speed up, etc as   
> contributions to musicality are certainly part of this.
> But it can reach much deeper if one chooses to allow it to.    
> Although I give this example in open embrace, we (my
> regular partner & I) dance similarly, but with much more subtlety,   
> in close embrace.  And yes, probably 60% of the
> time we are apilado/close and 40% of the time open - or something like that.
>
> Spose I lead a back ocho to my right (follow's standing leg is her   
> left).  My lead indicates the degree to
> which rotates.  I.e. - do we keep moving LOD? does she go side to   
> side and we make no progress LOD? etc.
> As she rotates I step to my right to "receive the ocho", but I give   
> the lead indication for her to step prior to my
> stepping (I generally try to lead so that her foot moves prior to   
> mine.)  Spose that she sees that the floor
> behind me is clear (we DO NOT run into people or even threaten   
> to!!!) and wants to play a little.  She might
> over-rotate, stepping into me, and compelling my receiving step to   
> actually be counter LOD.  She has even been
> known to WAY over rotate and back secada my left (leaving) foot as I  
>  step to receive her ocho.  Yes, that TOTALLY
> breaks frame, but so what?  I am however compelled to deal with it,   
> for example by leading her to subsequently
> pivot 180 deg CCW while I step right outside with my left foot.  Now  
>  we are back in the embrace, but facing counter
> LOD.  I now deal with it and get back to moving LOD.  etc.
>
> Possibly not AT, but a hellovalota fun to dance like this:  I lead,   
> she follows in her own manner, I deal with it and
> then lead the next step, and she does something, and I deal with it... etc.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
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