[Tango-L] Tergiversar = to distort, twist

[Mario]

It's really frustrating to be continuously reading the debating that goes on in Tango-L
  and suspect that it is apples vs oranges that are being described.
  Here again, I suspect, that one person is talking about close embrace social dancing
  and the other about Nuevo that is danced with distance between the partners and often
  to hardly recognisable Tango music....two very different animals if we are splitting hairs
  about communication between partners.
  It was Jean-Pierre who told how he often just 'shook his head' after finally seeing how
  a Tango-L poster danced in person. 
  I would love to see a video of this give and take between partners...even Chichi Fromboli 
  doesn't do this..he leads and she follows..but if there is something that I'm missing
  please post a video of it.  Can you find a couple, on YouTube even, doing what you are
  suggesting?  I can find dozens doing the lead/follow roles where not much choice is given
  the woman's role..except perhaps for a tap of the toe or a moment to embellish freely in place.  Are we discussing apples and oranges? Is there a real debate going on or just another Red Herring that we are discussing?