[Tango-L] Beginners and milongas
spatz at tangoDC.com
Sun Feb 17 16:05:35 EST 2008
Chris (et al.),
I have a question about something you wrote...
Chris, UK wrote:
> The count is simply the means used by DIC teachers to tell the class which step to do when. [...] In truth that's the job of the music, and the dancer's feeling for it.
These two statements reference quite different things, no? Counting
steps is merely putting them in order. The "count" of the music is
another thing entirely, and may or may not have a direct relationship
with the ordinal sequence of steps.
To judge by what you write, it seems that these different exercises are
often conflated simply because they both use the same range of numbers.
But I've never conflated them myself, nor have I noticed many others
doing it. In fact, the only dancers that come to mind are certain
performers with stage-training... if they open a routine with the 8CB
(and many of them do), it's invariably off the music. (Sometimes I see
them trying to collect with the beat, but they always fail for some
Now, I wouldn't argue that the 8CB, or any pattern, is inherently
unmusical; just that _a direct association_ of the step-count with the
beat-count is usually a recipe for clunkiness... the culprit in most
cases being a faulty notion of how to "count" rhythm. But why people who
can't play a drum would ennoble themselves to explain rhythm at all is
beyond my ken.
To get to the actual question here... Is there really a widespread (and
deliberate?) conflation between step-order and the measure of the
music-- or am I just splitting hairs?
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