[Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

[Keith]

Hey Steve,

If you can't answer the question, just say so. You sound like yet another guy
who likes to talk-the-talk but can't walk-the-walk. Tango is full of them' 

And thanks for reminding me what I wrote to Jeff - same thing hold for you Steve.

A Tango Man's motto should be - NEVER BLAME THE WOMAN. 

Keith, HK


On Sun Oct 14  7:33 , steve pastor  sent:

>Keith: 
>  If you seriously wish to engage in discussions with people in this
>  forum, you might want to avoid replies such as this one, which you 
>  posted recently.
>   
>  "Of course, Jeff, I'm sure the reason couldn't possibly be your poor leading.
>Personally, I've never had a woman ... "automatically resolve into an ocho".
>If you want something different, Jeff, lead something different. And if you
>can't - don't blame the woman. 
>
>Keith, HK"
>
>  
>
>
>Keith keith at tangohk.com> wrote:
>  Can we be a little bit more specific here. Steve, if the girl can walk and
>do Ochos and Giros, just what are you leading that they don't know what to 
>do? Especially after a couple of attempts. 
>
>Keith, HK
>
>On Sat Oct 13 5:28 , steve pastor sent:
>
>> 
>> "Why aren't they becoming more skilled?" Another answer to this is that
>> many women become visibly upset if you lead something and they don't
>> know what to do. After a try or two, it's best to leave it alone.
>> And, you know, mostly, the women don't ask for input, or even want to 
>> discuss things after they've had lessons or found an adequate number
>> of partners they feel comfortable with. If something doesn't work, it is
>> surely the fact that the man didn't lead it well. Right?
>> But then, maybe that is because we don't have men who have been doing
>> this for decades. 
>> If you want to learn, you take lessons from a "teacher". Right?
>> 
>
>
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