[Tango-L] retaining men in urbana

[Keith]

Since I don't know either Ron or Joe, obviously I wasn't commenting about them 
personally or their relationship. How could I since I know nothing about either 
of them. All I was doing was answering a simple question posed by Chris, UK who 
asked how Joe had been 'labelled'. I stand by my answer that Ron has labelled 
Joe as a Ballroom instructor by implication. That's really all I said. And it's 
a little naive of you to think it was simply a throwaway comment by Ron. Cetainly, 
from his reply, Joe didn't think so, as he was the one who complained about being 
labelled by Ron.

At least, that's the way I read it. And I saw no need for your rude ... "let me 
shove your foot further in your mouth" comment.

Keith, HK


On Thu Oct 11 22:47 , Jeff Gaynor  sent:

>Keith wrote:
>> If I could answer on Joe's behalf, because I sometimes have the same problem. 
>> The label is 'Ballroom dance studio" thereby implying that the instructor is 
>> a ballroom instructor who cannot teach Tango as it'd danced in Argentina.
>>
>> Since Joe also teaches Argentine Tango classes, why not call it a Tango dance 
>> studio? Or just a dance studio.
>>
>> But I think we all know why Ron called it a Ballroom dance studio.
>>
>> Keith, HK
>>   
>Since I live in Urbana and know both Ron and Joe and have studied with 
>them, let me shove your foot further in your mouth.
>
>Joe teaches Argentine Tango (billed as such) at a large dance studio 
>called the Regent Ballroom, which teaches (surprise) ballroom, among 
>other things. He is not the proprietor and he is not going to be able to 
>change the name of it. Don't tell him to. Ron wasn't just calling him 
>names, contrary to what you think.
>
>Joe does teach open embrace and he and Carlota are very good at it. Yes 
>we all know Ron loves apilado style but that doesn't mean when he makes 
>a statement of fact it is a barb. Joe and Carlota are really nice people 
>and they do a lot for tango in the community by taking on the thankless 
>tasks of doing the long-running Wed. night milongas downtown plus others.  
>
>Generally Ron and Joe have good relations and work well at keeping tango 
>up and running in the area. A hearty thank you to both of them. Both 
>realize they cater to different tastes and both are mature, responsible 
>adults who accept this. Both also understand that some sort of 
>ego-induced rivalry would divide the community to the point tango would 
>be severely and negatively impacted, with me among others as the losers. 
>I've never seen either of them behave with anything other than 
>professional decorum towards each other. Don't set up an antagonism that 
>doesn't exist.
>
>Clear on this?
>
>Jeff G
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