[Tango-L] Live Music

[Sergio Vandekier]

Mr. Adriel Jeremiah Azure says:    (I will give my opinion others may 
disagre)

"I myself personally want to play what dancers want to hear but, and this
is a big but, dancers should not throw this request and it is a request
(should never be a demand) around as if it's no big deal to actually
recreate a certain type of music."

1 - I personally go to a milonga to dance, so I expect that the music played 
is going to be danceable and inspirational.    I do not go to milongas where 
tango music "for listening" is played, since even when one can dance tango 
to any kind of music the feeling is different and the interpretation of such 
music as a dance is difficult.

If you create and play music for listening that I like, I will buy the CD 
and sit at home to listen to it. .

He continues:

"The whole "I'm taking my toys and going home" attitude of "if
it's not danceable I will walk away", will never create any sort of
creative, symbiotic relationship between the dancer and the performing
musician."

2 - I am not interested in creating any symbiotic relationship with a 
musician that plays "non danceable" music when I go to a milonga.

At the risk of being repetitive I must say: I go to the milonga to dance to 
good inspirational, danceable tango music that facilitates my interpretation 
of such music in my dance and my connection and non-verbal conversation with 
my partner.  I do not go there to make any type of charity work, to help 
musicians to learn how to do their job.

and adds:

"Finally, (as if I should have to say this) be polite and leave the
pompous, arrogant machismo crap at the door. That's the one thing from
Argentinean culture we can do with out (I happen to be part Argentinean by
the way before anyone says anything)."

3 -  A specific type of music or dance are, in general, a product of the 
culture of a people.  Tango is a product of life and culture of the people 
of Buenos Aires the same as Jazz and swing is a product of life and culture 
of the cities in North America, during a certain period of history .

If you ignore that life or culture totally, or in part you are going to be 
unable to create that particular type of music or dance.
You can produce something similar but not the real thing.
This is happening even in Buenos Aires where some young musicians that did 
not grow up in B.A. at the time of the golden era of tango, are unable to 
write music as it was done then.

Mr. Adriel Jeremiah Azure, assuming that Argentine Culture exhibited  " 
pompous, arrogant machismo crap " as you very graphically describe, you 
(IMO) should not leave that fact of our culture at the door, quite the 
opposite, you should reflect that characteristic in the music that you are 
trying to create and play.  Tangos reflect that element of our personality 
and dear culture, not only in the music and the dance but also in the 
lyrics. (See el porten`ito for instance). You cannot dance tango without 
poise, giving the impression that you are in charge, that you without any 
doubt know what you are doing.

Finally:
None of your names are Argentine, Argentine culture is not inherited in 
genes it is absorbed   .

Soy hijo de Buenos Aires,
por apodo "El porteñito",
el criollo más compadrito
que en esta tierra nació.
Cuando un tango en la vigüela
rasguea algún compañero
no hay nadie en el mundo entero
que baile mejor que yo.

I am son of Buenos Aires,
my nickname is "El Porteñito",
the most swaggerer of the Criollos
that in this land was born.

When a tango in the guitar
is played by some of my friends
nobody in the whole world
dances better than I do.

Best regards, Sergio

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