[Tango-L] Women's technique

[Keith]

 Hi Konstantin,

 Great reply. I hope Sean gets the message, but I doubt it. He'll probably be teaching all that stuff in your final paragraph in
 his next beginner class :-). 

 Keith, HK


 On Tue Jul 17  9:44 , "Konstantin Zahariev"  sent:

>On 7/16/07, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patangos at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>[...]
>> Keith's error is in thinking and teaching that
>> disassociation is created when "you twist at the waist".
>> Movement of the body occurs at joints. There is no waist
>> joint. Disassociation of the hips and ribs is only possible
>> by twisting the spine, particularly the lumbar spine. This
>> is not a pointless semantic distinction. When you think of
>> twisting the spine instead of the waist, it becomes
>> immediately apparent that creating tension in the back is
>> counterproductive.
>
>
>It may be better to _say_ it that way if it invokes the appropriate
>muscles as an intuitive response (don't know if this is true or not
>but I can take your word for it). However you are not really
>spine-twisting to dissociate. There is no waist joint, true, but there
>are specific muscles that generally go between your hips and your
>ribcage and accomplish the twisting by contraction.
>
>My understanding is that if you twist only your upper body so that
>your right shoulder rotates forward and to the left (from your POV),
>or, equivalently, when you twist only your lower body so that your
>left knee/leg rotates forward and to the right, you involve mainly the
>right external oblique, the left internal oblique, and to a smaller
>degree the rectus abdominis and the left spinal erectors. So the main
>movers are nowhere near the spine, and the spine errectors do not
>twist it, even though the spine may get a twist in it as a
>_consequence_ of the contraction of the obliques.
>
>With best regards,
>
>Konstantin
>Victoria, Canada
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